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re: "Fruit of Islam" coming to Troy rally against police brutality tomorrow (P 25)
Posted on 12/27/17 at 10:59 pm to Ebbandflow
Posted on 12/27/17 at 10:59 pm to Ebbandflow
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None of that is good enough reason to beat his face to a bloody pulp.
His results are all from 1 hard impact,probably being taken to the ground from a standing position.
There is no abrasion from sliding across the ground,and not even skin ruptures from licks against cheekbones,jaws,teeth etc.
Different licks leave boundaries,it's like a story that you can read,If you've seen it enough.
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Posted on 12/27/17 at 11:03 pm to auggie
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is results are all from 1 hard impact,probably being taken to the ground from a standing position. There is no abrasion from sliding across the ground,and not even skin ruptures from licks against cheekbones,jaws,teeth etc. Different licks leave boundaries,it's like a story that you can read,If you've seen it enough.
Right. We all know that after chasing someone and catching a suspect, pigs remain calm and cool and never ever pounce on a suspect like a lack of savages and punch the aspect. That’s never ever even been caught on film.
This post was edited on 12/27/17 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 12/27/17 at 11:09 pm to TheMidasTouch
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Right. We all know that after chasing someone and catching a suspect, pigs remain calm and cool and never ever pounce on a suspect like a lack of savages and punch the aspect. That’s never ever even been caught on film.
Oh, I have no doubt that he got tackled hard. That's what happens.
Now, would you guys like to suspend police and courts for 1 year?
I am all for it.
This post was edited on 12/27/17 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 12/27/17 at 11:14 pm to Ebbandflow
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I guess we won't know until they released the dash cam and body cam videos.
That's why I always wait until all evidence is in before judging a situation, we don't know because we weren't there. If it turns out it was excessive then let them have their day in court.
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It just seems odd to me that they have pepper spray and tasers as options but they somehow ended up cracking his face open
We have no idea what the situation was to assume these were usable at the time either.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 11:18 pm to Aristo
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That's why I always wait until all evidence is in before judging a situation, we don't know because we weren't there. If it turns out it was excessive then let them have their day in court.
Problem is that these police officers keep getting the benefit of the doubt and they keep being ruled to have used a just amount of force. That is a problem that we as a society should not stand for. Maybe we should kneel for.....knuk knuk knuk
Posted on 12/27/17 at 11:20 pm to Ebbandflow
What can you really do? They get a jury of their peers just like everyone else and sometimes even citizens get the benefit of the doubt.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 11:22 pm to TheMidasTouch
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Right. We all know that after chasing someone and catching a suspect, pigs remain calm and cool and never ever pounce on a suspect like a lack of savages and punch the aspect. That’s never ever even been caught on film.
Cops gang up and beat the crap out of a man after he was just in a life threatening car crash and not breathing
Posted on 12/27/17 at 11:22 pm to Aristo
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Not in Bama baw.
he can't buy it but he can carry with his parents permission under several circumstances
Posted on 12/27/17 at 11:24 pm to bmy
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he can't buy it but he can carry with his parents permission under several circumstances
You think if he knew this, he would know not to run when encountering the police?
Posted on 12/27/17 at 11:25 pm to Aristo
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What can you really do? They get a jury of their peers just like everyone else and sometimes even citizens get the benefit of the doubt.
They get a jury of their peers, immense pressure not to convict, DAs who don't want to convict, and blue silence.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 11:26 pm to Aristo
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You think if he knew this, he would know not to run when encountering the police?
He was probably scared he'd be murdered if they saw he had a gun on him.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 11:28 pm to bmy
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he can't buy it but he can carry with his parents permission under several circumstances
He can never carry concealed legally at that age.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 11:29 pm to bmy
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They get a jury of their peers, immense pressure not to convict, DAs who don't want to convict, and blue silence.
I have to disagree. In todays climate with "police brutality" in everyones vocabulary id be scared to death to have to be put before a jury
Just like the young man in the OP was probably told from an early age not to trust the police, your average citizen is fed the same narrative by the MSM every day.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 11:29 pm to bmy
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He was probably scared he'd be murdered if they saw he had a gun on him.
Hands up don't shoot, right?
Posted on 12/27/17 at 11:29 pm to Aristo
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Sorry buddy but you are wrong here. If they are able to stop a crime in progress or prevent a crime, that's part of their job. If an officer sees someone looking through your windows, you don't want them to find out what's going on?
It's very clearly not their job and the supreme court has been very clear they have no obligation to stop or prevent a crime from happening. And how would the cop know that it's not me looking through my window? I don't ever want to see a police officer.. and I'm not really sure why any rational american would..
Posted on 12/27/17 at 11:30 pm to auggie
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He can never carry concealed legally at that age.
How do you know he was concealing it?
Posted on 12/27/17 at 11:31 pm to MrTide33
My issue is thus:
The police know they're being videotaped by their own body or dashcam.
1. How pervasive or accepted is beating up citizens that they don't fear repurcusions because of the gang mentality in police stations. They know they're being videotaped and yet feel insulated from prosecution.
Or...
2. How much lack of self-control do they have that the possibility of being fired for being videotaped of police misconduct that even this doesn't deter them?
The police know they're being videotaped by their own body or dashcam.
1. How pervasive or accepted is beating up citizens that they don't fear repurcusions because of the gang mentality in police stations. They know they're being videotaped and yet feel insulated from prosecution.
Or...
2. How much lack of self-control do they have that the possibility of being fired for being videotaped of police misconduct that even this doesn't deter them?
Posted on 12/27/17 at 11:31 pm to bmy
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DAs who don't want to convict
You could say that about all DAs and all cases.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 11:34 pm to bmy
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How do you know he was concealing it?
If he wasn't,then he will have a bloody shoulder holster,or six gun belt,right? Otherwise, if he was open carrying he was running around with a gun in his hand.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 11:37 pm to TheMidasTouch
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The pigs’ job is to catch him
Looks like he was caught
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cuff him
Was probably a lot easier to cuff after he had been subdued
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arrest him
He was charged
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Not to get pissed off because you had to chase someone and beat him to a pulp.
Until it is determined that the use of force went beyond what was reasonable I will refrain.
Understand im not advocating for officers losing their composure and purposely injuring suspects. I do however believe in an officer having the legal authority to use necessary and reasonable force to gain control of a situation. Its not for me to decide based off of a picture and half of a story if that is what occurred here.
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