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Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:48 pm
Posted by Random MsState Fan
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:48 pm
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God doesn’t bless America. That’s not how this works. I’m sorry to break it to you, Bible Belt Christians—but that’s just how it is. I know this kinda wrecks the convenient narrative you’ve been working for the past 60 or so years (and hitting especially hard the past eighteen months), but honestly that nasty bit of heresy has done enough damage already and it needs to go. It’s straight-up of the devil. I’m not sure where you’re getting your taglines and hat slogans from, but I know it isn’t from the Bible. I know it isn’t from your coveted and regularly trotted out John 3:16: For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. God loved the world. God is in the world-loving business—not the America-blessing business.

You remember the world, don’t you; that massive, spinning sphere of 7.6 billion disparate human beings: brown people, Muslims, LGBTQ folks, Atheists, shithole countries—and lots and lots of non-English speaking, non-Americans? Check out the Old and New Testaments again. Read through the Gospels a few times. Use any translation you’d like: No America First. No Making America Great Again (or at all.) No flags or national anthems to pledge allegiance to.

A few other bits of news from the Scriptures: Jesus was born in the Middle East. He didn’t speak English. He wasn’t white. He wasn’t Southern Baptist. He wasn’t a Republican. Heck, he wasn’t even Christian. Jesus was a Rabbi who spent his days as an itinerant street preacher, living off the generosity of strangers and speaking in parables about a new “Kingdom of God:'” a radical way of living where the poor were cared for, the oppressed freed, and the outcasts welcomed in.

Jesus came to usher in a countercultural kind of interdependent community, in direct opposition to the power-wielding Roman Empire he stepped into. It was a diverse, barrier-breaking, border-transcending, nation-defying movement of generosity and mutual affection. It had nothing to do with blessing a Government or building an army—or creating a gated community of white folks in North America two thousand years in the future. To claim that America was at all the point of the Gospels is flat-out heresy. To assume any God-ordained supremacy based on religion, nation of origin, pigmentation, orientation, or native tongue—is a perversion of the work of Jesus and idolatry of the worst kind.

I’m sorry to break all this bad news to you. I understand the actual words of the Gospel are problematic, given the story you’re selling to those whose fear you’re leveraging in America right now. It is impossible to be devoted to the Jesus of the Scriptures, while refusing refugees, expelling immigrants, vilifying brown people, worshiping political power, guarding borders, and neglecting the poor—which is exactly the point.

As long as you continue to conflate God and America, you’re going to be whitewashing the Good News, shrinking God into your own image, and bastardizing the message of Jesus in ways that can only be described as fully and violently heretical.

If your God is America—you need a bigger God.

Last time I checked, America is in the world.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:51 pm to
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Heck, he wasn’t even Christian
Always love this one
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
16303 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:55 pm to
Even if I believed 100% of that wall of hate, I'm not sure what he wants me to do.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58027 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:56 pm to
Even though a person can both love his country and love God at the same time, some of his points are valid.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78657 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:59 pm to
A nice mixture of resentment, anger and cluelessness there . Lots of abnormal psychologies out there with access to computers working out their issues one word at a time .
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29793 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 10:00 pm to
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God doesn’t bless America. That’s not how this works.


How does he know exactly?

I’m not a big Christian but I love when people claim to know how God “thinks” and by what methods he uses to handle his holy bidnass.

Posted by philly444
stuck in contraflow
Member since Nov 2008
11356 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 10:02 pm to
Crazy that people take the time to type out this stuff
Posted by indianswim
Plano, TX
Member since Jan 2010
18792 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 10:02 pm to
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Read through the Gospels a few times. Use any translation you’d like: No America First. No Making America Great Again (or at all.)


shite. I’m gonna have to read the Bible again because I could have sworn that was in the book of Matthew.
This post was edited on 7/20/18 at 10:20 pm
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 10:04 pm to
This guy is really convinced he has a point. That’s going to be very disappointing.
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
16303 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 10:06 pm to
I wonder what his position on abortion is. Seriously.

eta: oh well that didn't take long to find:
"I wish all human beings mattered as much to you as caucasian embryos do."

what a douche.
This post was edited on 7/20/18 at 10:09 pm
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32545 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 10:08 pm to
Just when the media thinks it can’t separate Christians from Trump, one of these assholes pops up and reminds them that the alternative truly hates them.
This post was edited on 7/20/18 at 10:16 pm
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72674 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 10:09 pm to
he is so wrong on so many things i do not know where to begin. times then and now and way different.

as if we do not have loving charitable christians now.


There was no islam then idiot

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while refusing refugees, expelling immigrants, vilifying brown people


take this shite elsewhere.

we have taken in more immigrants than anyone you moron. it is a privilege not a right due to current issues and ideological threats. expelling illegals? many committing heinous crimes? absolutely. we have laws dipshit. not our fault many are brown. this dude is a open borders cuck.

times then and now have changed GREATLY. the bible says let in all illegals and criminals and not following laws for protection?



Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
4330 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 10:10 pm to
Talk about a straw man. I've never in my life heard of anyone conflating God and America.

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God loved the world. God is in the world-loving business


Might wanna read up on God choosing favorites.

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Deuteronomy 7:6 “For you are a holy nation to the Lord your God. The Lord your God has chosen you out of all the nations on the earth, to be His own.


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Jesus came to usher in a countercultural kind of interdependent community


Dumbest thing I've read today.

quote:

ohn 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.


Prettty sure that was the whole point. Not communal living.
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
16303 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 10:11 pm to
Excellent rebuttal, and in less than 100,000 words.
Posted by KeyserSoze999
Member since Dec 2009
10608 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 10:14 pm to
One of the reasons God blesses America, is because He loves the world, can you image His blessings an evil dictator more than all the other countries? Just because a dumbass can write, still don’t make it true.
This post was edited on 7/20/18 at 10:15 pm
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26785 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 10:16 pm to
Being anti-illegal immigration is wrong because, drum roll, JESUS wasn’t American.

They aren’t sending their best, folks.
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 10:48 pm to
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God doesn’t bless America. That’s not how this works. I’m sorry to break it to you, Bible Belt Christians


That's where I stopped.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12942 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 10:54 pm to
Do these idiots not understand that a large majority of people who don't support their open borders, tranny bathrooms, hate whitey agenda are not bible thumping rednecks?
Posted by TexasTiger80
Texas
Member since Apr 2018
2396 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 11:24 pm to
This guy is nothing but a hack who infiltrated the Christian church to push his progressive agenda.

Unfortunately, the Christian church is being infiltrated at an alarming rate these days by them...both the Catholic and Protestant churches.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141987 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 11:29 pm to
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You remember the world, don’t you; that massive, spinning sphere of 7.6 billion disparate human beings: brown people, Muslims, LGBTQ folks, Atheists, shithole countries
Never trust anybody who:

1) Uses the word "folks"

2) Spells out "LGBTQXYZ" etc...

3) Muslims
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