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Posted on 5/16/18 at 11:31 am to coonasswhodat
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I normally don’t read your drivel, but it is nice to see the good guys advancing.
What are your thoughts on the lumpenproletariat?
Posted on 5/16/18 at 11:32 am to Tigerlaff
Untermenschen, obviously.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 11:35 am to Ebbandflow
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Socialism and capitalism are meant to coexist.
Not according to Karl Marx, or Lenin, or Mao, or any other figure head of Socialist ideology.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 11:36 am to boogiewoogie1978
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There are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them
Maybe to people who have never studied politics and make up definitions as they go.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 11:38 am to Quaker
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In a country like Denmark
Denmark is more economically free than the U.S.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 11:38 am to Jjdoc
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Four socialist-backed candidates win Pennsylvania legislative primaries
"Backed" can mean a lot of things.
Trump was "backed" by the KKK. It doesn't mean one shite about what the man is about though.
I would need more info than just saying they're "backed" by them to get into any kind of moral outrage.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 11:47 am to HempHead
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Then it ceases to have meaning. A word or idea that has many definitions is no effective word at all.
Does the word frick cease to have meaning?
Posted on 5/16/18 at 11:50 am to skrayper
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I would need more info than just saying they're "backed" by them to get into any kind of moral outrage.
Then read.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 11:51 am to boogiewoogie1978
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Does the word frick cease to have meaning?
"frick" is slang and used in situations where its intended meaning is easily decipherable by the context of the statement.
For instance:
Socialism royally fricks up an economy.
Anyone who believes that the a central command economy is preferable to a market economy is fricking retarded.
These stupid fricks don't know an ounce of history if they advocate socialism.
I could go on.
This post was edited on 5/16/18 at 11:57 am
Posted on 5/16/18 at 11:53 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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Except that they all fricking suck and normally end with millions dead and starving.
We have numerous socialist programs in this country. Do they all suck?
Posted on 5/16/18 at 11:54 am to boogiewoogie1978
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We have numerous socialist programs in this country.
No, we don't. The only arguable one is the military but even then our citizens are not prevented from forming a paramilitary group from private capital.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 11:56 am to boogiewoogie1978
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We have numerous socialist programs in this country. Do they all suck?
Really, what are these socialist programs?
Calling redistributive programs socialist only serves to make actual socialism palatable.
These programs are wealth redistribution, not socialism. The ideas might have some intersecting preferences, but they are NOT the same in policy.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 11:58 am to Antonio Moss
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"frick" is slang and used in situations where its intended meaning is easily decipherable by the context of the statement.
For instance:
Socialism royally fricks up an economy.
Anyone who believes that the a central command economy is preferable to a market economy is fricking retarded.
These stupid fricks don't know an ounce of history when the advocate socialism.
I could go on.
So frick is used as a spin-off from it's intended meaning? The same way socialist programs can be a spin-off from it's defined meaning?
I'm not advocating for full socialism. However, some socialist programs are good for our country. Just like full blown capitalism is not good.
Everything in moderation.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 12:00 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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The same way socialist programs can be a spin-off from it's defined meaning?
Nope. Clearly you missed the entire point. Socialism, or any political/economic ideology is not slang.
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I'm not advocating for full socialism. However, some socialist programs are good for our country. Just like full blown capitalism is not good.
"Socialist programs" would be industries completely owned by the U.S. government who production, distribution, and consumption schemes were controlled by Washington.
We don't have those.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 12:01 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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So frick is used as a spin-off from it's intended meaning?
frick is colloquial. Its uses are varied due to the evolution of language. The definition and usage of a word like socialism - or capitalism, or Georgism, fascism, whatever - has ideological and practical implications. So their functions, as words, are utterly different.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 12:08 pm to Antonio Moss
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"Socialist programs" would be industries completely owned by the U.S. government who production, distribution, and consumption schemes were controlled by Washington.
Once again, I'm not saying "full blown" socialism. I'm saying programs that have socialist concepts such as the military.
They work and have been working for a long time.
The same can be said for capitalism. There isn't a "free market" in this country and never will be.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 12:10 pm to HempHead
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Its uses are varied due to the evolution of language.
The same can be said about the evolution of socialism.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 12:10 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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I'm saying programs that have socialist concepts such as the military.
They work and have been working for a long time.
The same can be said for capitalism. There isn't a "free market" in this country and never will be.
Redistribution programs and government funded agencies is not "socialism" - full blown, half blown or otherwise.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 12:12 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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The same can be said about the evolution of socialism.
Not as I understand it. I'm willing to be proven wrong. As I see it, though, socialism still means collective control of the means of production. Has the intent moved beyond that?
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