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re: Former FBI agent on Fox now: “professional hit”

Posted on 9/10/25 at 9:01 pm to
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14359 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 9:01 pm to
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Are you saying that you believe a professional hitman took the shot and the kid was just a patsy? As ridiculous as that theory would be, it is actually more likely than Kirk's killer being a hitman.
You probably thin Oswald killed Kennedy.
Posted by bcoop199
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2013
8933 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 9:16 pm to
Duh...they've failed at getting Trump twice...this event was much easier for them to plan and be successful. By them I mean Dems(deep state).
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
42214 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 9:19 pm to
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Calling it a professional hit seems odd to me. For starters, that’s a very loaded word. It implies training, financing, planning. That eliminates the idiot who goes to the gun range on the weekend. It implies a military background or human asset either foreign or domestic. You don’t put that out there if the only thing you’re basing it on is a rifle shot from 200 yards. If they are saying it’s a professional hit, they are telling you without telling you.

Exactly.

A truly well trained shooter, at that distance, would have hit him in the pumper or the nose.

The neck shot was a lucky shot for the shooter .... an unlucky shot for poor Charlie.

As old as I am I'm still shooting sub-MOA out to 600 meters and I'm MOA out past 1000 meters.

200 yards is nothing. Even a guy who is average can keep it inside a four inch circle at 200 yards on a day like it was there today.

This guy missed big, but he got lucky.

It wasn't Charlie's lucky day.

My heart is broken. Everyone I know is distraught .... devastated even.

My 26 year old son and his girlfriend just went to see Charlie at USC not long ago. They are both in shock. This is a seminal moment for them ... one they'll never forget.

I remember vividly when JFK was shot, when RFK was shot and when MLK was shot.

This will be much like that for a younger generation.

Those were not professional assassins ... neither is this.

A professional would have waited to take him out coming out of a hotel or getting into a car or walking into a restaurant.

What happened today was done by a hater, a zealot, who feels that he was making a political statement. Someone who has been stalking and planning this for awhile. Someone obsessed with Charlie Kirk. Someone who was motivated to do this because of violent rhetoric from the left, and social media and Reddit and .... this guy thinks he is a hero for doung this, and he'll slip up. They'll eventually get him.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50653 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 9:22 pm to
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I have rebuilt car engines before and meticulously planned it, I’m not a mechanic.

I believe you are a mechanic if you can do that.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20676 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 9:23 pm to
Unless they wanted it public to make a statement.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297576 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 9:23 pm to
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A truly well trained shooter, at that distance, would have hit him in the pumper or the nose.


Thats my thought. I think the shot was low but still hit vital areas.

Posted by JKeller34
Member since Sep 2025
247 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 9:28 pm to
One shot says a lot. He likely was satisfied after seeing where he hit and then bounced. He knew the exit to blend and most people are flight flee mode where they wouldn’t question someone as long as they weren’t obvious or remember. They also had this planned out.
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
42214 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 9:30 pm to
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Thats my thought. I think the shot was low but still hit vital areas.

It was a trigger pull error.

Shooter was aiming for Charlie's head but was nervous and anticipated recoil ... common mistake, low right impact. He didn't wait for the trigger break.

Low left is also a slap and the only reason it could have been a slap is because of Charlie moving his body at the last second.

But this thing will be analyzed like nothing in recent memory. From the shooter's position they'll have trajectory calculated by lunch tomorrow.

Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35072 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 9:32 pm to
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His death may be meant to send a message to all maga public speakers.


This
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14359 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 9:34 pm to
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A truly well trained shooter, at that distance, would have hit him in the pumper or the nose.

The neck shot was a lucky shot for the shooter .... an unlucky shot for poor Charlie.
The best, most professional "hit" is the one that looks like something else.

For arguments sake, let's pretend Kirk got took out from 1200 yards away. Everyone would be screaming "Professional hit"! If you just want someone dead, and you are a true professional, you do it quietly with no witnesses, or make it look like a plausible accident.

If you want someone dead, want to send a message, AND GET AWAY WITH IT, that's a whole other level. A nut puts a snub nose in his pocket and walks up to the target in a crowd. Kirk didn't have an advance team or secret service protection. Today was much easier than Butler, but no one can convince me that lone gunman managed to get on the roof of a college campus with THOUSANDS around and got off a kill shot, then got away with surveillance cameras all over the place. This was a pro hit.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17846 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 9:35 pm to
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What information does he have to believe it’s professional? I don’t see making that call based solely on a 200 yard rifle shot and black clothing.


A lot of mind games being played. They may want everyone or even the perp to believe they think that.
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
42214 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 9:37 pm to
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His death may be meant to send a message to all maga public speakers.

His death wasn't meant to send a message other than in tbe shooter's delusional mind ... a Kirk hater.

What his death will do is cause universities to give pause before inviting other conservative speakers onto their campus ... and they'll use the excuse, "for security reasons."

His death will give liberal universities an excuse to shut down free speech on their campuses.
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
7325 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 9:41 pm to
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His death may be meant to send a message to all maga public speakers.


Only thing it will do is make MAGA public speakers pissed off and want to come out swinging harder than ever. There will just be bullet resistant glass between them and the violent left in the future.
Posted by Xenophon
Aspen
Member since Feb 2006
42636 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 9:41 pm to
Look I don’t know if it was professional or not. But you don’t need much practice with any rifle to hit someone from a couple hundred yards. The US military has boots doing in within one trip to the range.

Add in the fact that he was hit in the neck, and I lean amateur.

The fact the shooter hasn’t been caught makes me thing some training though.
Posted by Feelthebarn
Lower Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
3608 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 9:42 pm to
They are saying it was a pro hit because they want the narcissistic leftist that did it to get comfortable
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
20214 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 9:45 pm to
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He said, "it wasn't military .... because they go for head shots." WRONG! We go for head shots in some cases but usually center mass.


I used to do the job in the Army sounds like you did to. You’re exactly right. A 200 yard unobstructed shot is center mass, every single time. Period.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35628 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 10:24 pm to
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What information does he have to believe it’s professional? I don’t see making that call based solely on a 200 yard rifle shot and black clothing.

Look at the circumstantial evidence that is available to us...

The shooter gained access, undetected, to a rooftop of a secure campus building.

The shooter was able to hit within inches of his target (he/she was likely going for the head shot for full effect) from an elevated position in broad daylight from 200 yards away.

The shooter managed to apparently escape the completely secure campus building without drawing ANY attention to themselves and disappeared like a fart in a hurricane.

Some of the nearby police were distracted arresting what appears to be a homeless man who happened to be carrying what appears to be a pellet rifle with a scope just outside of where the shooting occurred.

... it's anecdotal. But it looks professional. If it turns out during investigation that someone just randomly handed that apparently homeless man the (likely) pellet gun or placed it next to man knowing he would pick it up, that pretty much lays a pretty solid framework for a diversion. That would be very professional, to make unwitting accomplices of random strangers. Yeah, that's my conspiracy brain, but that's what we know and it certainly looks very possible that this was a pro hit.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83215 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 10:27 pm to
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Meticulously planned does not make this a professional hitman.


I agree. It was likely a deranged leftist who had some practice with a rifle and did some planning. Don’t have to be a pro to make that shot or slip away. It’s not like Kirk has secret service protection.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9818 posts
Posted on 9/11/25 at 12:19 am to
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What information does he have to believe it’s professional? I don’t see making that call based solely on a 200 yard rifle shot and black clothing.


Yeah. I don’t think it is necessarily a “professional” aka elite sniper or special forces soldier. Not saying it wasn’t, but anyone with hunting or range experience and a good rifle with a scope could have made that shot.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 9/11/25 at 12:22 am to
Professional hit or not, it changes absolutely nothing in my mind. The media and the insane liberals are still to blame. They provided the cover, and it could still very much be their rhetoric that caused this.

Just find the person and bring them to justice.
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