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Forbes article on why Austin housing cost is increasing much faster than other tex cities
Posted on 7/14/17 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 7/14/17 at 8:35 pm
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There is a similar narrative driving all four of Texas' big metros, and it is a positive one. Dallas, Houston, Austin and San Antonio have, since 2000, been among the nation's leading major metros for economic and population growth. But, surprisingly, this growth has severely influenced housing prices in only one of them. Median home values in metro Houston, Dallas-Fort Worth and San Antonio, while increasing, remain, according to Zillow, below or just above the national median of $187,300. The Austin metro, however, has median home values of $254,500, and the city proper is Texas' 2nd most expensive home-buying market, trailing only the beach town of Galveston. Austin's median housing prices have also grown far faster in net total than the others, increasing by $80,000 since 2011. Why the difference? The reasons vary, but boil down to Austin's relative unwillingness--thanks to NIMBYism and regulations--to build more housing.
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Dallas and Houston are known for their pro-growth, pro-business attitudes, highlighted by Houston's lack of a formal zoning code, and the explosive town-center growth throughout the suburban municipalities of both metros. According to data from BuildingHunter.com, the Houston metro area between 2008 and 2012 granted between 21,000 and 28,000 building permits annually, and these figures were above 50,000 before the recession. Dallas-Fort Worth saw between 14,000 and 18,000 annual building permits over that time, and was well over double or triple this before the recession. But the Austin metro area had under 10,000 permits annually between 2008 and 2012, and even before the recession, permits were well under half of either Dallas or Houston. This is despite the fact that the metro routinely ranks at or near the top in population growth rate. A local real estate group determined this May that 15,000 new units are needed annually in the city limits alone to meet this demand--something that's obviously not happening now.
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The devil of this lagging construction is in the details of how Texas' capital city is regulated. Density is limited in the interior neighborhoods through a variety of laws--such as minimum lot sizes and height limits--that prevent high-rise construction. Most of the rest of the city is dominated by single-family residential zoning that limits density even more. The Austin area also has a high intensity of preservation reserves, meaning nothing can get built in some places.
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As regulatory delays have increased remarkably since 2009, strong rent growth has compensated for this growing uncertainty throughout the Austin market. If regulatory delays are eliminated and developers receive approvals for multifamily projects within the 120 day mandate instead of the 223 day average, renters could see relief of 4-5% on their rent, or an average of $60 per month or $720 annually in Central Austin.
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This NIMBYism manifests itself via the Austin Neighborhood Council, a collection of neighborhood associations. It is particularly strong among homeowners on the northwest side, which contains some of Austin's richest zip codes. Chuck DeVore, who is vice president of the Austin-area Texas Public Policy Foundation and a fellow Forbes contributor, says this NIMBYism has--in one of the great ironies of modern urban affairs--arisen because of the city's liberal politics. While the other Texas metros are more conservative, and thus maintain a relatively hands-off approach to regulation and property rights, Austin's government reminds him of California, where he was previously a state legislator.
Between 2004 and 2013 average rents in the Austin area increased by 50%, while median incomes increased by just 9%..
“Of all major Texas cities, Austin comes the closest to imitating California’s regulatory stranglehold on housing development," he wrote by email. "This results in government-induced artificial scarcity in the housing market which drives up prices as builders can’t meet demand."
Austin texas struuggling to contain housing prices, unlike other texas cities
Posted on 7/14/17 at 9:11 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Sounds like something straight out of the fourth chapter of Thomas Sowell's Applied Economics.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 9:19 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
bullshite. Very few cities have added as much housing in central Austin in the last 10 years. It doesn't take a genius to see how vastly different the skyline is due to high rises. S Congress, Burnet, Lamar are now littered with multi use facilities with apartments and condos, that were all absent 5 year ago. Austin doesn't have the infrastructure to support the influx like Dallas, Houston and San Antonio. It's as simple as that.
And the rise in home values has fallen off dramatically in the last year or two. I've only seen very modest increases, but my home nearly doubled in value in a matter of 5 years previous to that.
And the rise in home values has fallen off dramatically in the last year or two. I've only seen very modest increases, but my home nearly doubled in value in a matter of 5 years previous to that.
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 7/14/17 at 9:23 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Nope nope nope. I was told emphatically here that it was NOT government regulation causing the astronomical housing price increases.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 9:23 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
“Of all major Texas cities, Austin comes the closest to imitating California’s regulatory stranglehold on housing development"
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 9:26 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Currently trying to move there
Posted on 7/14/17 at 9:30 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Are they basing value on tax valuation?
Austin municipal gov and schools spend a load of money.
Texas appraisal districts jack up valuation when gov is too chicken to raise taxes. The monster must be fed.
Austin municipal gov and schools spend a load of money.
Texas appraisal districts jack up valuation when gov is too chicken to raise taxes. The monster must be fed.
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 9:37 pm
Posted on 7/14/17 at 9:30 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Diamonds, water, scarcity.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 10:48 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:While this doesn't negate the basis of the article, I think this is a flawed premise since it fails to discuss growth rates of the metro areas:
Dallas, Houston, Austin and San Antonio have, since 2000, been among the nation's leading major metros for economic and population growth. But, surprisingly, this growth has severely influenced housing prices in only one of them
Metropolitan Statistical Areas
Growth Rate of metro from 2010 to 2016
San Antonio-13.4%
Houston-14.4%
Dallas-12.6%
Austin-19.8%
So when he makes this statement:
quote:You can't just discount the reasons as factors when focusing on one. Things don't happen in isolation, so while this is probably true:
Why the difference? The reasons vary,
quote:Discussing it without considering the other factors makes it harder to be persuaded by the argument.
but boil down to Austin's relative unwillingness--thanks to NIMBYism and regulations--to build more housing.
Now maybe I'm focusing too much from academic perspective that relies on a model to explicitly show the factors. And in this case, the article MAY be based on such a model, but he's just boiling it down for this purpose.
HOWEVER, since I only saw him briefly address one factor (tech company growth), and only considers in briefly and a far too simplistic manner, I find this less than compelling.
In fact, I've found the article decreasingly compelling as I've written this, since I only initially thought of population growth as a factor, and he explicitly mentions one, and notes that there are others.
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 10:55 pm
Posted on 7/14/17 at 10:50 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Unlike other Texas cities, Austin can't really grow east to west the same way Dallas or Houston can bc of the terrain. That's as big a part of it as anything else. But don't take my word for it, I only lived there for 3 years.
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 10:52 pm
Posted on 7/14/17 at 10:54 pm to Draconian Sanctions
I know there are the hills to the west, what's the hurdle east?
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:08 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Austin is no more prohibited by its location than are Houston (Gulf Coast, surrounding metropolitan areas) or Dallas (sourrounding metro); on the contrary, Austin may be at a greater advantage.
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:29 pm to EKG
I moved to the mentioned Northwest side 6 months ago.
The "Stop the PUD" signs were prominent but it finally got approved. There are more than a few interchanges/frontage with MOPAC that could be developed vertically.
It would be difficult to do much more further west, they've pretty much filled in all the build-able areas.
CodeNext has been adopted to increase housing supply but I'm not versed enough in the minutia of those sort of things to say if it will deliver on it's promises.
The "Stop the PUD" signs were prominent but it finally got approved. There are more than a few interchanges/frontage with MOPAC that could be developed vertically.
It would be difficult to do much more further west, they've pretty much filled in all the build-able areas.
CodeNext has been adopted to increase housing supply but I'm not versed enough in the minutia of those sort of things to say if it will deliver on it's promises.
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 11:31 pm
Posted on 7/15/17 at 3:40 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
One must consider city size when comparing permits issued.......the Metroplex and Houston are far far bigger than Austin, so it stands to reason permit applications would be less in Austin.
Guess it's tough keeping A-town weird these days.....
Guess it's tough keeping A-town weird these days.....
Posted on 7/15/17 at 6:06 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
I remember when Austin was a really cool place.
Man, these liberals can frick up just about anything.
MAGA
Man, these liberals can frick up just about anything.
MAGA
Posted on 7/15/17 at 8:03 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Austin is one big traffic jam. Unless you live downtown, and can walk, this city is a nightmare to get around. You waste so much time sitting in traffic. Don't go anywhere between 9am-5pm everyday and you will be ok.
Posted on 7/15/17 at 8:15 am to ctiger69
This is an absolute garbage article citing all the wrong statistics.
Dallas has been a top 10 double digit housing price increase city for the last 4 years along with the likes of San Fran, Miami and NY. Austin HAS NOT.
Dallas is one of the few housing economies that has blown by its 2007 peak real housing price index...Austin has not.
Prices are high and increasing in Austin but they're increasin everywhere at Texas and in many replaces at higher rates. Supply is a factor all over the country. You literally can't look up macro economic housing data and not have someone talk about supply.
In no way possible could Austinbe considered the ONLY city in Texas "to be effected". It's probably 3rd right now behind Dallas and Houston.
I could go on from an economic standpoint as well and continue to point out how terrible this article is and on a macro level I'll just say quickly anyone not talking about historically low interest rates and foreign money fleeing their central banks currency deflating efforts but chooses to mention a cities regulation instead is either ignorant or incredibly disingenuous.
TL;DR article is garbage
Dallas has been a top 10 double digit housing price increase city for the last 4 years along with the likes of San Fran, Miami and NY. Austin HAS NOT.
Dallas is one of the few housing economies that has blown by its 2007 peak real housing price index...Austin has not.
Prices are high and increasing in Austin but they're increasin everywhere at Texas and in many replaces at higher rates. Supply is a factor all over the country. You literally can't look up macro economic housing data and not have someone talk about supply.
In no way possible could Austinbe considered the ONLY city in Texas "to be effected". It's probably 3rd right now behind Dallas and Houston.
I could go on from an economic standpoint as well and continue to point out how terrible this article is and on a macro level I'll just say quickly anyone not talking about historically low interest rates and foreign money fleeing their central banks currency deflating efforts but chooses to mention a cities regulation instead is either ignorant or incredibly disingenuous.
TL;DR article is garbage
This post was edited on 7/15/17 at 8:22 am
Posted on 7/15/17 at 8:28 am to Teddy Ruxpin
I live in Nw Austin as well. Right off of Steck. How about you?
Don't even get me started on the traffic here. I've been in Austin since 2009. When I arrived, the population was just under 1 mil. Currently the population is just over 2 mil. With the population doubling, do you know how many lanes have been added to any of the major roads? Exactly 1. And that is a toll road, which has been a disaster. Supposed to be completed in 2015 and here it is 2017 and it still hasn't been completed.
Don't even get me started on the traffic here. I've been in Austin since 2009. When I arrived, the population was just under 1 mil. Currently the population is just over 2 mil. With the population doubling, do you know how many lanes have been added to any of the major roads? Exactly 1. And that is a toll road, which has been a disaster. Supposed to be completed in 2015 and here it is 2017 and it still hasn't been completed.
Posted on 7/15/17 at 8:36 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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The Austin metro, however, has median home values of $254,500, and the city proper is Texas' 2nd most expensive home-buying market,
Must be fricking nice. You can get a sweet studio in barrio logan for this price out here
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