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Posted on 5/28/20 at 1:05 pm to FlexDawg
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No one said anything about thugs. Look back at all the posts you’ve ever made regarding killings(excluding thugs). Were any about someone getting killed other than a black person? That’s my point.
I don’t know. I don’t get upset every time done gets killed.
I was upset when whites were killed too. I don’t agree with you at all.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 1:08 pm to FlexDawg
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If you are not consistent in your outrage and are only outraged when the media tells you to be outraged then you are a hypocrite
This is a ridiculous conclusion, and you may be using hypocritical completely wrongly. Everyone has passions and selective outrage. It's possible to be completely biased and have extreme passions, and yet not be hypocritical.
If someone is passionate about people getting killed by sharks, and they always get upset about shark-related deaths but fail to be outraged by cops shooting black people, they are not a hypocrite.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 1:13 pm to ShortyRob
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Certain things get wall to wall news coverage. Certain things do not. You rarely see "outrage" on the latter regardless of how bad it is and you tend to see outrage on the former in a completely out of proportion to reality manner.
Very few times do I get immersed in a news event such that I tune in and watch wall to wall coverage. 2016 election night, yes I was all in, Hurricane approaching La. I’m all in. Major events, I will watch, but I don’t watch the cable shows at night for news, They are agenda driven and isn’t hard news.
Those shows are wall to wall bs and I don’t watch.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 1:18 pm to FlexDawg
If you don’t find anything wrong with what that police officer did, you’re heartless.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 1:23 pm to Tigahs24Seven
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This the way he stared at the camera with his hands in his pockets rolling his knee back and forth on this guys neck it seemed to me that this was a purposeful murder and somebody is being paid to cause black on white tension before the Presidential election....Obvious is obvious.
So you think that cop was paid to murder someone on camera? Just want to make sure I’m understanding you.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 1:24 pm to FlexDawg
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Do you express equal outrage when:
Did white people express equal outrage when that cop killed that kid who was on his knees with his hands up in Arizona?
There are like for like scenarios where white people are the victims of institutional violence, which is exactly what happened in this case. I rarely see very much outrage for those cases.
The police treat white people here far worse than police treat majority groups in other developed countries, on a whole. Not only that, the incarceration rate for white people alone is among the top ten for incarceration rates worldwide, if I remember correctly.
Treating this as a "race versus race" issue is the same mistake people like BLM make, as they miss the the vital critique of the superstructure. The way police interact with citizens is only part of the issue, as we have a circuitous system of laws and regulations, as well as inadequately funded towns and cities, who make up their funding shortfall with tickets and fines. It needs to change, but as long as we are talking about the minutiae and not the structure, it won't.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 2:52 pm to doubleb
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I don’t know. I don’t get upset every time done gets killed.
Then you are contributing to race wars by only going along with the media’s narrative every time.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 2:56 pm to FlexDawg
I think it’s more about labeling an entire group for the actions of a few. That’s the main problem. Protest justice. Protest prosecution for the individuals responsible. Don’t categorize an entire group. That goes for all situations. Whether dealing with race, financial situation, or occupation.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 2:59 pm to moester75
i think the fact that cops get away with makes it more common place. The blue shield is real.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:08 pm to FlexDawg
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My point is that we as humans need to be consistent in our outrage. Don’t wait for media to show you what to be outraged over. Take initiative & express outrage over ANY HUMAN killed by anyone. When you play selective outrage you contribute to division & the race wars narrative
You might be overlooking why people are outraged. It’s not just about killing.
Yes, killing another person is usually abhorrent when it is in self defense. But we have police officers whose job is to provide for public safety. We expect them to defend themselves when attacked, but we also expect them to value the lives of others and not be reckless with the lives of others.
So we will definitely be more outraged when a public servant endangers the lives of others, especially when it is captured on video with such glaring clarity - among a crowd that seems to have more situational awareness than the officers sworn to protect them.
This post was edited on 5/28/20 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:14 pm to Steadmans Cheddar
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This is a ridiculous conclusion, and you may be using hypocritical completely wrongly. Everyone has passions and selective outrage. It's possible to be completely biased and have extreme passions, and yet not be hypocritical.
If someone is passionate about people getting killed by sharks, and they always get upset about shark-related deaths but fail to be outraged by cops shooting black people, they are not a hypocrite.
Black kills white, I don’t care
White kill black, I care
Both are humans
=hypocrite
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:15 pm to FlexDawg
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Then you are contributing to race wars by only going along with the media’s narrative every time.
That is a dumb statement to make. You are really struggling to make a point.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:15 pm to 4cubbies
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If you don’t find anything wrong with what that police officer did, you’re heartless.
If you have a comprehension problem then you’re an idiot.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:17 pm to FlexDawg
I’m too busy living my life to be outraged by anything.
A little miffed? Sometimes.
A bit angry? Sure, it happens.
But to be in a near-constant state of outrage is a miserable way to live.
A little miffed? Sometimes.
A bit angry? Sure, it happens.
But to be in a near-constant state of outrage is a miserable way to live.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:19 pm to Willie Stroker
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You might be overlooking why people are outraged. It’s not just about killing. Yes, killing another person is usually abhorrent when it is in self defense. But we have police officers whose job is to provide for public safety. We expect them to defend themselves when attacked, but we also expect them to value the lives of others and not be reckless with the lives of others. So we will definitely be more outraged when a public servant endangers the lives of others, especially when it is captured on video with such glaring clarity - among a crowd that seems to have more situational awareness than the officers sworn to protect them.
Ok. Did you make posts any time in the past when a cop killed a white person and was in the wrong?
Selective outrage.
This post was edited on 5/28/20 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:55 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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Well, the cop could’ve stopped short of murdering the poor bastard via choking him to death for 10 minutes.
And you know for a 100% fact Floyd's cause of death was asphyxiation? From the video Floyd was walking towards the police car and collapsed without the cops doing anything. Now why the didn't summon EMT's I don't know. But, the point is neither do you.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:35 pm to FlexDawg
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Ok. Did you make posts any time in the past when a cop killed a white person and was in the wrong?
Selective outrage.
What makes you think I give a shite about the skin color of either party? Why should I?
I often post on topics of police use of force. I am selective about that topic. I do not post about pit bull murders on the other hand because I expect pit bulls to murder people. Can I not select my outrage in this manner?
You have also claimed that we have to be consistent in our outrage. Why? You are outraged by what you term selective outrage. Are you consistently outraged by all outrages?
This post was edited on 5/28/20 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 5/28/20 at 5:50 pm to Willie Stroker
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What makes you think I give a shite about the skin color of either party? Why should I?
Because you can’t name a time when you were outraged about anyone besides a black person getting killed.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:51 pm to FlexDawg
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Because you can’t name a time when you were outraged about anyone besides a black person getting killed
What makes you think I can’t and why do you think that’s a relevant topic?
If it appeases your outrage to name a name, then Daniel Shaver - the guy killed in a hotel while crawling on the floor pleading not to be shot. There were many topics on this forum about it and I posted in several. Happy hunting.
Can we move on to a discussion more relevant than this nonsense?
This post was edited on 5/28/20 at 8:53 pm
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