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re: For the anti- war crowd, what was your solution for Iran?
Posted on 3/20/26 at 11:00 pm to Stidham8
Posted on 3/20/26 at 11:00 pm to Stidham8
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good with them becoming a nuclear power
A single bit of evidence on this would suffice. They've been "weeks away" since the mid-2000's.
As for the rest, I would rather not get our soldiers, sailors, marines, and airmen killed if we can avoid it. We're at 13 with 200+ with serious injury and counting. I am an Iraq combat veteran who saw the death and destruction firsthand, including a member of my unit who lost his legs to an Iranian-supplied EFP. Trump's administration hasn't articulated the actual strategy and final goals of this boondoggle, and it appears to be an ever-greater clusterfrick every day this goes on.
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Posted on 3/20/26 at 11:42 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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A single bit of evidence on this would suffice.
Would suffice for what?
You think the POTUS has to tell you what classified information he has access to so that you can decide whether a military action is justified or not?
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They've been "weeks away" since the mid-2000's.
Then why is this the first time we've intervened?
Posted on 3/20/26 at 11:57 pm to hwyman108
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Keep giving them billions and apologize for being white Colonizers and Christians. The Book of Barry.
We gave Iran $400M in a settlement related to 1979. Then we negotiated a deal between them, Europe, China, Russia, and the U.K. where they had to ship out 95% of their uranium and enrichment was capped at 3%.
Then Netanyahu came and cried to Congress how much he didn’t like that.
Then we drop the deal, impose sanctions, shite escalates, we take out Soleimani, and Iran aggressively pursues a nuclear weapon.
Trump the diplomatic genius.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:00 am to Stidham8
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good with them becoming a nuclear power with unlimited ballistic missiles?
Maybe we should have treated them as a nation state instead of climbing in a glass box and pretending that if we were just sanctimonious enough that they’d give it up for nothing.
But that’s my view on foreign policy generally.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:01 am to wackatimesthree
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You think the POTUS has to tell you what classified information he has access to so that you can decide whether a military action is justified or not?
This is a truly hilarious take after the Iraq/WMD situation
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:07 am to Indefatigable
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if we were just sanctimonious enough that they’d give it up for nothing
That’s the thing they had already agreed to give it up & we managed to fumble our own international deal
I don’t really care what anyone says, I prefer the path we were on in 2017 with Iran to the one we’ve been on since 2018.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:09 am to stlslick
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why would we go to war, when trump himself mentioned their nuke capabilities was nill after the strikes.
so?
They were rebuilding.
I guess your plan is wait until 2028 and hope dems don't win?
Great plan...
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:09 am to DeathByTossDive225
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don’t really care what anyone says, I prefer the path we were on in 2017 with Iran to the one we’ve been on since 2018.
I’m not disagreeing.
I’m mocking the people who spent the last ten years dunking on the GOP and W for Iraq only to be parroting the same talking points for this nonsense.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:10 am to Azkiger
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They were rebuilding.
Only two weeks away!
Iran is only slightly farther behind than we were behind Italy during Covid.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:12 am to Indefatigable
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I’m not disagreeing
I’m not either. I’m saying this is Trump and Netanyahu’s mess + it started in 2018, not 2026. That dude (Netanyahu) has been pushing for conflict with Iran for decades.
This post was edited on 3/21/26 at 12:13 am
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:12 am to Stidham8
Keep applying sanctions to cripple their economy. States can fall without the use of military force. The Soviet Union is the perfect example of this.
Striking at Iran the way we did is like wacking a hornet's nest. Sure, the nest will fall. But the chances of you getting stung (economically in our case) is very, very high. And wacking the hornet's nest doesn't ensure that all the hornet's will die. You'll just get a new nest eventually, or multiple small ones that still cause problems.
Striking at Iran the way we did is like wacking a hornet's nest. Sure, the nest will fall. But the chances of you getting stung (economically in our case) is very, very high. And wacking the hornet's nest doesn't ensure that all the hornet's will die. You'll just get a new nest eventually, or multiple small ones that still cause problems.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:12 am to Indefatigable
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Only two weeks away!
Sorry, you think they weren't rebuilding their nuke program after we bombed then last June?
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:15 am to Azkiger
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you think they weren't rebuilding their nuke program after we bombed then last June?
I’m certain they were. You think breaking it again is going to prevent them from rebuilding it again?
Or are we going to bomb them every ten months?
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:16 am to Azkiger
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Sorry, you think they weren't rebuilding their nuke program after we bombed then last June?
Doesn’t seem like bombing broke it, but this wasn’t something we needed to worry about in 2017 now was it?
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:18 am to Indefatigable
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I’m certain they were. You think breaking it again is going to prevent them from rebuilding it again?
Or are we going to bomb them every ten months?
Some people require more than one punch to the face before they quit.
Good to know you'll quit immediately though.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:19 am to Stidham8
Lot of sheep in this thread.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:21 am to Indefatigable
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This is a truly hilarious take after the Iraq/WMD situation
So you do think the Commander in Chief of the US military owes you an explanation? You, personally. That's what you're saying, right?
And BTW, several countries thought Iraq had WMDs, not just the US.
You tell me, what scenario is worse, to think they have them and act accordingly and then find out they don't, or to act as though they don't and find out when it's too late that they do?
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:30 am to Stidham8
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Hands off, good with them becoming a nuclear power with unlimited ballistic missiles?
weird....we were told that operation midnight hammer wiped out all their nuclear sites and any questioning of that was "fake news"
SO....did Trump lie?
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:33 am to Stidham8
They bomb our base we vaporize a city. Pretty simple actually
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:33 am to Azkiger
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Good to know you'll quit immediately though.
So how long and how often are we cool with spending enormous amounts of money and resources playing whack-a-mole?
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