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re: For other PT Catholics on new Pope? All things considered… win, loss, or even?
Posted on 5/8/25 at 6:30 pm to waiting4saturday
Posted on 5/8/25 at 6:30 pm to waiting4saturday
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He might not be great but he’s right of Francis and he’s not a Jesuit. So he’s going to be promoting more conservatively than Francis did for bishops/cardinals/etc… which will ultimately be a net positive for when his successor is picked.
Pretty much this
Im incredibly happy he wasn't a Jesuit. Augustinian is infinitely better than those Blue Jay frickers
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 6:35 pm to burger bearcat
Every pope decided by the conclave has been a 10/10. All popes pray to God then make their pick creating a consensus pick of God's will. How could the pick ever be anything but a 10/10, unless you think the whole religion is a scam?
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 9:10 pm
Posted on 5/8/25 at 6:35 pm to TrueTiger
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But don't expect him to tell poor people around the world that they are bad people for wanting to seek something better.
Is someone calling them bad people for wanting something better?
They're bad for not going about it the correct way.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:10 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
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Every pope decided by the conclave has been a 10/10. All popes pray to God then make their pick creating a consensus pick of God's will. How could pick ever be anything but a 10/10 unless you the the whole religion is a scam?
Yes they pray to God but they are also human and have free will. They may or may not pick according to the Holy Spirit's choice speaking to them.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:13 pm to bleedpg
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Yes they pray to God but they are also human and have free will. They may or may not pick according to the Holy Spirit's choice speaking to them.
Yea maybe one or two of them got distracted during prayer, but this is well over 100 people praying and voting. It is clear that it is God's vote every time.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:16 pm to FATBOY TIGER
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They're bad for not going about it the correct way.
Right, but what about the ones who aren't violent criminals?
I mean i know hardcore Trumpers will never say anything about amnesty, but I don't thinks it's very Christian to deport all of them.
They should at very least allow those with no known issues a chance at citizenship via the way they currently do it (if not a better process). I think that's a good compromise and infinitely more compassionate way of handling the immigration crisis
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:17 pm to SpqrTiger
quote:like what?
I want major reform/cleanup
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:19 pm to GreenRockTiger
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want major reform/cleanup
like what?
Yeah I was curious about that as well.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:21 pm to burger bearcat
wait and see, he seems traditional on some things and liberal on others. Could have been a lot worse
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:21 pm to Slippy
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Leo is pretty young, and evidently in very good health. He will be around a long time.
Unless we send JD Vance for him.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:25 pm to gaetti15
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Right, but what about the ones who aren't violent criminals?
My cousins wife and youngest son returned to the Philippines for 4 years because she did not complete the process correctly.
They have to leave and do it the correct way.
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I think that's a good compromise and infinitely more compassionate way of handling the immigration crisis
What you think and compassion has no baring on the issue.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:30 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
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Every pope decided by the conclave has been a 10/10. All popes pray to God then make their pick creating a consensus pick of God's will. How could pick ever be anything but a 10/10 unless you the the whole religion is a scam?
You can still have a bad Pope. Just not a heretic.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:33 pm to burger bearcat
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My view, is the Church is in God’s hands and he will use it fulfill his will
I don't know how anyone can look at the history of Catholic Church leadership and say this with a straight face. If that leadership is in God's hand then God is one fricking a horrible being
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:38 pm to Grumpy Nemesis
The Church is comprised of flawed humans. We’re all flawed humans.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:41 pm to SpqrTiger
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It’s a win if he drives re-engagement with the Catholic Church in the United States. I want major reform/cleanup, but I know I won’t get it in my lifetime. I’ll settle for a re-energized Catholic community doing goods things here. I think we could use more of that. If the Pope is listening… men are the ones you need to call home again. Get them back on the train and let them lead.
Only reform that’s acceptable is allowing the clergy to marry
Since the church is the bride of Christ ,and the Mass is its wedding , therefore having female clerics would constitute an unnatural act
Id like to see a return to the traditional mass but in English
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:44 pm to burger bearcat
I am content, not the best choice, but could have been much worse. Prayers for the Pope
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 7:47 pm
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:44 pm to burger bearcat
Too early to tell. Some positive things, however looks as if he will oppose Trump on immigration, and he’s bought into the climate change racket.
At best, he’ll be a centrist and keep to church teachings. I feel we dodged a bullet with Cardinals Tagle and Zuppi.
At best, he’ll be a centrist and keep to church teachings. I feel we dodged a bullet with Cardinals Tagle and Zuppi.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:51 pm to 4cubbies
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The Church is comprised of flawed humans. We’re all flawed humans
Sorry. Can't simultaneously play the "in God's hands" card with the "well, yeah. We're fricked up cause we're human" card..
Either there's nothing particularly special about Catholic leadership and there are no different than any other people I might bump into during life or they have some special position allowing them to lead the church.
Their actual Behavior over the last hundred years at least indicates strongly that they're just a bunch of dudes only worse than most
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:52 pm to SkiUtah420
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Only reform that’s acceptable is allowing the clergy to marry
Might as well since the overwhelming majority of them don't maintain the vow of celibacy anyway and the church leadership knows it
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:52 pm to tommy2tone1999
Well he supported a wife beater/human trafficker, so I would say he is a 2 out of 10. Maybe he will prove me wrong…
Others have said he was elected to get the Catholics out of their $2billion debt…
Others have said he was elected to get the Catholics out of their $2billion debt…
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