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Follow up question about Howard university situation
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:08 am
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:08 am
For those who haven't read through it the premise of the argument went like this:
The girls did it on purpose at a HBCU to troll because they're racists.
Even if they did, it was a hat supporting the sitting president of the United States it shouldn't be an issue. People could wear obama merchandise and not be racists so what is the difference?
After reading through it i could see what the next probable rebuttal from the left would be and that is that blacks cannot be racist because they lack the power and institutional control it takes to be racist.
So my question is why is there this push to insist that blacks cannot be racist, they are simply prejudiced or bigots rather than actual racists? (See Francesca Ramsey) They are essentially the same thing, racism is just one form of bigotry so it's just a game of semantics. Why is that? Surely there is actually a reason for specifying the terms.
The girls did it on purpose at a HBCU to troll because they're racists.
Even if they did, it was a hat supporting the sitting president of the United States it shouldn't be an issue. People could wear obama merchandise and not be racists so what is the difference?
After reading through it i could see what the next probable rebuttal from the left would be and that is that blacks cannot be racist because they lack the power and institutional control it takes to be racist.
So my question is why is there this push to insist that blacks cannot be racist, they are simply prejudiced or bigots rather than actual racists? (See Francesca Ramsey) They are essentially the same thing, racism is just one form of bigotry so it's just a game of semantics. Why is that? Surely there is actually a reason for specifying the terms.
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:09 am to 'Boro Tiger
quote:
So my question is why is there this push to insist that blacks cannot be racist, they are simply prejudiced or bigots rather than actual racists?
Because they want to have their cake and eat it too.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:10 am to 'Boro Tiger
Those girls peacefully sat at the lunch counter and those racists spit on them
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:10 am to 'Boro Tiger
Because minirities can't be racists. You ain't hear it?
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:14 am to Eli Goldfinger
No I understand completely that they don't want that term applied to them. My question is more of why is there a push from more mainstream voices that it isn't racist and just bigoted when they are practically synonyms. Looking at it from a conspiracy theory point of view I suppose
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:19 am to 'Boro Tiger
With liberal progressives the end is always justified by any means. Consistency/lack of hypocrisy does apply to liberals. It's their way or the highway. Any perceived inconsistencies with their motives is simply because you are not aligned with their agenda in which case you need to be reprocessed/realigned.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:20 am to 'Boro Tiger
quote:They clearly did.
The girls did it on purpose at a HBCU to troll because they're racists.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:32 am to mmcgrath
Wearing a hat that supports a political candidate and eventual president doesn't make someone a racist, even if the one the hat is for has been deemed to be racist himself. There have been plenty of obama supporters and even obama himself that have stated things that were not helping in regards to races relations. Yet I don't consider anyone who wears his merchandise to automatically to be a racist like you do with trump supporters. So I ask this question to you...is it that they were wearing the hat that makes them racist or that they did it at a black university? Or perhaps both?
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:36 am to 'Boro Tiger
quote:Intentionally trolling in a college cafeteria at an HBCU and pretending not to know that it was a predominantly black college.
So I ask this question to you...is it that they were wearing the hat that makes them racist or that they did it at a black university? Or perhaps both?
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:36 am to GurleyGirl
I know they don't follow by the same rules it's a play from the alinsky playbook. Make the enemy abide by their own standards and it's why until trump republicans would get destroyed in the media and in the eyes of the public. However, if they were just saying they couldn't be racist or bigoted at all because they are of a protected minority class that would be different. They are openly stating that they can still be prejudiced just not racist and that is where my question lies. Is it just semantics because the average person won't catch on to the logic or that they can still claim that oh we aren't racist just bigoted and it somehow not be as bad?
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:42 am to mmcgrath
They may have been trolling, if they just walked into the cafeteria as citizens with it on I would agree with you. They were on a school trip to the capital though I believe so maybe they just came from the White House and were wearing it in support of the candidate they supported and never took them off. Maybe it was a little of both and they still thought it would be funny to troll a little bit while they were at it. Point is that it shouldn't matter trolling does not equate to being racist and there are black trump supporters. Do you deny that? So wouldn't it be racist in a sense that progressives don't acknowledge that blacks may like trump and that they don't have to think in a predetermined way? They are individuals still they may vote predominantly one way but they still can have independent thoughts. That's a lesson I don't think many of the left have learned yet.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:45 am to mmcgrath
quote:
They clearly did.
Even if they did, how is the relevant? Would you excuse a white racist if a black person trolled him into proving his bigotry?
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:47 am to mmcgrath
In this situation, the white girls can't be racist because they did not have any power or institutional control on that campus. Blacks control the university, so only they can be racist.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:47 am to 'Boro Tiger
I don't think institutional racism is applicable at a black university in a black city.
The whole concept of institutional racism is bullshite anyway, but it is completely dishonest when the very institutions are controlled by blacks.
The whole concept of institutional racism is bullshite anyway, but it is completely dishonest when the very institutions are controlled by blacks.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:50 am to mmcgrath
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Intentionally trolling in a college cafeteria at an HBCU and pretending not to know that it was a predominantly black college.
The fact they could troll them with hats says more about the students than the girls.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:51 am to ShortyRob
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The fact they could troll them with hats says more about the students than the girls.
The fact that he thinks wearing a MAGA hat at a "historically black college" is outlandish says more about him as well.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:52 am to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:
I don't think institutional racism is applicable at a black university in a black city.
That raises another question. How can you define a word by something that varies from place to place? So only white people can be racist in western civilization, blacks in Africa or caribbean, and asians in Asia? The argument that it is based on power makes no sense again because of this. What other word changes its definition so subjectively and based on geographic location?
This post was edited on 8/21/17 at 8:53 am
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:57 am to 'Boro Tiger
Googles have managed to blame 2000 years of failure on 8 months of a glorious Trump presidency.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:43 am to 'Boro Tiger
Why do white liberals insist blacks cant be racist? Because they see blacks as their little pawns just there to be an attack dog. They see blacks as below them, hence they could never be taken seriously.
This is why Democrat black politicians are caricatures, sent out to parrot ridiculous talking points that the white politicians could never get away with saying...except creepy uncle Joe
This is why Democrat black politicians are caricatures, sent out to parrot ridiculous talking points that the white politicians could never get away with saying...except creepy uncle Joe
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