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re: Folks, Why Are Government Employees So Scared To Work In The Private Sector?

Posted on 1/12/19 at 2:20 pm to
Posted by BornAndRaised_LA
Springfield, VA
Member since Oct 2018
6557 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 2:20 pm to
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The private sector is competitive. Govt is not. Some people can't hack competition.


At all but entry level ranks, the DOD is exceptionally competitive on both the military and the civilian side. Though unaffected by the present shutdown due to that appropriation already being approved, let’s not paint a broad brush and state that competition only occurs in the private sector.
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 2:20 pm to
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Some people can't hack competition.


That is the problem. Many of these ‘jobs’ aren’t needed it is just one big employment program for low IQ Americans. It is pitiful.
Posted by Jrv2damac
KS (mountain time)
Member since Mar 2004
72060 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 2:23 pm to
Auditors at my federal agency save a taxpayer $6.70 for every dollar we’re paid


Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 2:23 pm to
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Spoken like someone who actually knows no federal employees nor is aware the critical service they provide to the nation.


The majority of whose jobs should be done by someone at the state level. Most federal jobs are not necessary and were not intended to be performed by anyone at the Federal level.
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 2:23 pm to
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Many of which could walk into the private sector and make close to double their salaries now. But they take pride in working for the government, for much less pay, in effort to helping their country.


Most companies won’t hire someone with government experience on their resume. It is for good reason. That is why we have government jobs. So these people can be employed. Let’s not pretend the basically unfireable job for life with no accountability and a pension with about 25 ‘holidays’ a year and all the ‘sick’ leave doesn’t play into this.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12950 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 2:25 pm to
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LEO, firefighters, prison guards, inspectors, wildlife people. Lots of jobs out there that are pretty important and under appreciated.

Exactly what I was going to say.

The government workforce doesn't just consist of the DOD, IRS, EPA, and DMV.
Posted by caliegeaux
Booo Cheeeen
Member since Aug 2004
12345 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 2:27 pm to
10 holidays a year, some of which all jobs have off as well.

Sick hours are earned at 4 hours per pay period.

You sounds pretty uninformed and like a drama queen.


eta: to completely disprove your point about companies hiring them away. When oil companies have cutbacks. Many come to us. When they are back to running high numbers, they openly welcome them back. Oftentimes, paying out to the fed gov retention dollars the fed gov used to retain said employee. So yeah, you’re point is dumb and wrong.

This post was edited on 1/12/19 at 2:33 pm
Posted by Jrv2damac
KS (mountain time)
Member since Mar 2004
72060 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 2:28 pm to
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Most companies won’t hire someone with government experience on their resume. It is for good reason. That is why we have government jobs. So these people can be employed. Let’s not pretend the basically unfireable job for life with no accountability and a pension with about 25 ‘holidays’ a year and all the ‘sick’ leave doesn’t play into this.


You’re an ignorant a-hole.
Posted by FourThinInches
Member since Apr 2012
1351 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 2:28 pm to
In my experience in transportation, some are able to jump and are generally hired for their government connections for companies to "win" more work through the fair/balanced bidding process


These people jump once they get their maxed out pensions (10, 20, 30, etc.) and are generally the educated people or have the go-getter mentality.

Now in regards to your assessment, I have numerous former government workers working for me and you cannot teach an old dog new tricks applies. They are all stuck in their ways and it is hard to properly manage them as they are "already retired" due to collecting a pension and the ability to just move around with their vast DOT "experience". I generally prefer to try to hire young, eager to learn people and train them the right way; however the way proposals works is years of experience and we have to hire these grumpy old government workers.


In regards to a prime example of your statement, there was a G-man who walked around bossing everyone around on a power trip who left to go to the private sector. He lasted a couple months and then went back to working for the government.

This post was edited on 1/12/19 at 2:31 pm
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
78971 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 2:29 pm to
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The private sector is competitive. Govt is not. Some people can't hack competition. Have you been to the DMV? Do you think a private corporation would hire those people?


Most states put their worst employees there because you only have to deal with them once every four years. On the MS Coast the DMV employees are actually decent - you basically have good employees on the Coast and incompetent ones in Jackson.
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 2:32 pm to
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You’re an ignorant a-hole.


Spoken like the typical no account lazy government employee living off the American tax payer. Beat it loser. Real men are talking.
Posted by SouthernHog
Arkansas
Member since Jul 2016
6891 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 2:32 pm to
If they are in the IRS then frick them.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116661 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 2:33 pm to
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Might I assume you’d be fine without the following:


Yes, I'd be fine without any of them.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116661 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 2:34 pm to
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let’s not paint a broad brush and state that competition only occurs in the private sector.


OK. 99% of competition occurs in the private sector.
Posted by BornAndRaised_LA
Springfield, VA
Member since Oct 2018
6557 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 2:38 pm to
I gave you a big list on page one. Those are all clearly federal roles.
Posted by Jrv2damac
KS (mountain time)
Member since Mar 2004
72060 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 2:38 pm to
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Spoken like the typical no account lazy government employee living off the American tax payer. Beat it loser. Real men are talking.


I guess you can’t read.
Posted by BornAndRaised_LA
Springfield, VA
Member since Oct 2018
6557 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 2:41 pm to
Then you don’t want to live in a society.

How about Defense? You ok doing without that?
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116661 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 2:44 pm to
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Then you don’t want to live in a society.


Society created govt. Govt did not create society.

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How about Defense? You ok doing without that?


Someone didn't read all my posts. If you want to be an informed citizen it is very important that you read all of my posts.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32402 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 2:46 pm to
Posted by BornAndRaised_LA
Springfield, VA
Member since Oct 2018
6557 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 2:46 pm to
Society created government. Exactly. Society built the government you cry out against. Therefore, if you do not want that government then you either need to convince a majority to agree with you and change it...or go away from the society you disagree with. Bye Felicia.
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