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re: Fmr CIA Ops Officer: Slotkin Knew She Was Putting Together A Propaganda Video
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:03 am to Nosevens
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:03 am to Nosevens
quote:no, it is not.
Gaslighting is but a polite way of saying you’re full of crap but expect people to believe you.
From the Oxford dictionary
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gaslighting:
the practice of psychologically manipulating someone into questioning their own sanity, memory, or powers of reasoning.
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:07 am to RelentlessAnalysis
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RelentlessAnalysis
:RelentlesslyTerribleAnalysis:
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:10 am to RelentlessAnalysis
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gaslighting: the practice of psychologically manipulating someone into questioning their own sanity, memory, or powers of reasoning.
I think the term fits.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:24 am to RelentlessAnalysis
Thanks for making my point. Oxford definition may be that who’s just a snippy way of saying Relentless is full of crap and expects people to believe in him over our sanity & own reasonings
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:30 am to SallysHuman
google "don't give up the ship slotkin"
They are providing security detail for them now. It is obviously part of the psyop. I pray they are arrested before sundown today.
Slotkin, etal are seditionists!!
They are providing security detail for them now. It is obviously part of the psyop. I pray they are arrested before sundown today.
Slotkin, etal are seditionists!!
This post was edited on 11/23/25 at 9:40 am
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:33 am to Champagne
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..... who was duly elected POTUS twice in our country.
..... who was duly elected POTUS three times in our country, though one was clearly stolen from the American people.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:34 am to Timeoday
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google "don't give up the ship slotkin" They are providing security detail for them now. It is obviously part of the psyop. I pray they are arrested before sundown today.
Thankfully RA posted the text... I apparently suck balls at googling.
What is wild to me is how different people can read the same exact words and come to such different conclusions.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:34 am to Nosevens
quote:But, again, Relentless is NOT trying to make you believe that you are subjectively insane. He is showig you that you are OBJECTIVELY incorrect in your understanding of a federal statute.
a snippy way of saying Relentless is full of crap and expects people to believe in him over our sanity & own reasonings
If you think that blue is red, I am not trhing to make you think you are insane when I bring out a textbook to explain the differences between blue and red. I am simply correcting an error of objective fact.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:39 am to SallysHuman
quote:I don't think our conclusions are really that different.
What is wild to me is how different people can read the same exact words and come to such different conclusions
I certainly do not disagree with your premise that the Tweet was intended to IMPLY that Trump is issuing illegal orders.
And I don't THINK that you actually believe the Tweet (as written, not as "implied") constitutes an objective violation of the sedition statute.
You just seem to want to see it prosecuted anyway, and I readily admit that a desire to prosecute someone for NOT violating a statute baffles me beyond words.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:43 am to RelentlessAnalysis
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:45 am to RelentlessAnalysis
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You just seem to want to see it prosecuted anyway, and I readily admit that a desire to prosecute someone for NOT violating a statute baffles me beyond words.
Even you admitted that 2387 might very well fit.
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(a) Whoever, with intent to interfere with, impair, or influence the loyalty, morale, or discipline of the military or naval forces of the United States:
(1) advises, counsels, urges, or in any manner causes or attempts to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty by any member of the military or naval forces of the United States; or
(2) distributes or attempts to distribute any written or printed matter which advises, counsels, or urges insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty by any member of the military or naval forces of the United States— Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:45 am to RelentlessAnalysis
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Maybe you are not being entirely truthful with us.
You say "us". Do you run around with a rat in your pocket.
Maybe she just did not want to spend 30 seconds searching for it. Maybe she doesn't have the search skill set you have. Why be so snippy?
It is obviously a seditious propaganda psyop. They will be arrested soon.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:50 am to SallysHuman
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What is wild to me is how different people can read the same exact words and come to such different conclusions.
Which is why it is effective. The "words" were intended for soldiers. The common people did not even listen to it.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:52 am to SallysHuman
quote:Yes, I acknowledge that there IS a good faith argument (with little chance of success) that 2387 might apply.
Even you admitted that 2387 might very well fit
But the post to which you reply does not ADDRESS 2387. It addresses "sedition" under 2384.
And I am asking you straight-out. Do you REALLY believe that this Tweet violates 2384, which contains the very specific element of "violent force?" I simply DO NOT believe that any person with a measurable IQ would disregard the language of the statute and actually believe that.
This is like pulling teeth.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:58 am to RelentlessAnalysis
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And I am asking you straight-out. Do you REALLY believe that this Tweet violates 2384, which contains the very specific element of "violent force?" I simply DO NOT believe that any person with a measurable IQ would disregard the language of the statute and actually believe that.
Here's the timeline of this argument... 2384 was proffered by someone else. I initially argued for 2385, but I was wrong. I then suggested 2387, to which you agree there's some "there" there.
I know there are several different arguments going on in these threads... but if you look at mine specifically- I never defended 2384. I DID briefly suggest a different, wrong one... then found a more fitting one.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 10:00 am to Timeoday
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Which is why it is effective. The "words" were intended for soldiers. The common people did not even listen to it.
The statement is meaningless. Soldiers are not going to disobey orders.
Democrats know how easily it is to distract MAGA with worthless drama, and it works like a charm.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 10:02 am to Timeoday
Of course they knew what they were doing. I think they were surprised when Trump threw it right back at them and that their wasn't the mass outrage they tried to gin up.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 10:06 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The statement is meaningless. Soldiers are not going to disobey orders.
They might if they're being bombarded by media and congress critters that everything Trump does is illegal and then that they should disobey illegal orders.
This isn't in a vacuum but within even the text of the PSA that the threat is at home.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 10:07 am to RelentlessAnalysis
Talking as yourself in third person is comical when trying to explain gaslighting.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 10:08 am to SallysHuman
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They might if they're being bombarded by media and congress critters that everything Trump does is illegal and then that they should disobey illegal orders.
No, its not going to happen, unless the orders are illegal. This is the kind of reactionary, emotional outrage that Democrats usually provide.
Which is all they said. There are real issues to worry about, this is nothing but fabricated drama.
This post was edited on 11/23/25 at 10:09 am
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