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re: Florida Surgeon General Seeks to End ALL Vaccine Mandates

Posted on 9/3/25 at 2:49 pm to
Posted by GreatPumpkin
Member since Mar 2022
3261 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 2:49 pm to
I detest the COVID vaccine and all the coercive activity that went with it. I’m afraid some are going to conflate that with worthwhile vaccines that have a proper risk reward.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11847 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 2:56 pm to
My great-grandfather was a country doc in South Louisiana the '10's to '40's. He died before I was born, but my dad would tell stories about Christian Scientists who wouldn't make eye contact with my great-grandfather around town but they had a practice of coming to the back door of the clinic when they needed medical care. It's one thing when it's a little sect, though, and something else when it starts to be embraced as part of mass politics.
This post was edited on 9/3/25 at 2:57 pm
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77631 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 2:58 pm to
The "tRuSt tHe eXpEtTs!" crowd only has themselves to blame in the erosion of faith in the medical community.

Attenuated vaccines derived from live strains are a far cry from the Frankenstein witches brew bullshite they have been passing as "vaccines" in the intervening years since 2020. They had been angling for years for a way to get mRNA injections into people, and unfortunately for us, the weaponization of flu-like illness that was marketed as an extinction-level event (even though it has 99% survivability for all but the most vulnerable) provided them the opportunity.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3947 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 3:01 pm to
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Americans don’t need vaccines because we are Gods chosen people and he protects us.


oh my...
Posted by GreatPumpkin
Member since Mar 2022
3261 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 3:09 pm to
Yep they’ve lied for so long. The only thing I trust about them is their own financial self interest. I just hope large amounts of kids don’t start getting Polio or something horrific like that. I guess it’s like anything else in that the uninformed will pay the highest price.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 3:16 pm to
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The "tRuSt tHe eXpEtTs!" crowd only has themselves to blame in the erosion of faith in the medical community.


The anti-vax community has a long tradition in the US. The number of measles cases has been increasing steadily in the US since 2000. Is the medical community to blame for that too?

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Attenuated vaccines derived from live strains are a far cry from the Frankenstein witches brew bullshite they have been passing as "vaccines" in the intervening years since 2020.


More nonsense. Even attenuated vaccines need a suspension medium. And live, attenuated vaccines have a much higher injury rate.

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(even though it has 99% survivability for all but the most vulnerable


A disease with that survivability is going to be among the deadliest diseases in human history. And that is also the point of several vaccination campaigns, such as Polio, as something like 96% of infected people were either asymptomatic or had minor symptoms. The number of cases that were paralytic polio was less than 1 percent.

You don’t understand the history about which you argue and thus make terrible points due to profound ignorance. Again, you are just incorrect.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77631 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 3:17 pm to
A patient cured is a customer lost.

The vast majority of side effects are either listed as being the same ones that are experienced for the condition requiring the prescription in the first place (depression and suicidal thoughts are already reasons for taking an antidepressant. If it's a side effect of the medication, how do you know it works?) or the side effects are every bit as bad.

How did any of that become acceptable?
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
14665 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 3:18 pm to
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oh my...

Uh... look at who you are responding to.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
17546 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 3:18 pm to
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I’m afraid some are going to conflate that with worthwhile vaccines that have a proper risk reward.


You think? Just take a gander
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77631 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 3:21 pm to
You're a big pharma cheerleader and they're never going to warrant scrutiny in your eyes. It's not like that revelation shocks any of us based on the other left-wing positions you gleefully take as evidenced by your post history.

We were never going to agree on this point, just like we'd never agree on any of the other ones.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 3:25 pm to
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A patient cured is a customer lost


Nah. It isn’t like a patient cured is never going to need medical help again. This is probably the dumbest of all the dumb shite you repeat. Lord knows you haven’t thought it through.

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The vast majority of side effects are either listed as being the same ones that are experienced for the condition requiring the prescription in the first place (depression and suicidal thoughts are already reasons for taking an antidepressant. If it's a side effect of the medication, how do you know it works?) or the side effects are every bit as bad.


There are lots of potential reasons for the possible increased suicide risk, including the long-time it takes for SSRI’s to reach therapeutic doses. Are you gonna present a lecture for us on the data on that my man?
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77631 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 3:27 pm to
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ong-time it takes for SSRI’s to reach therapeutic doses.

How long did it take to get yours dialed in?
This post was edited on 9/3/25 at 3:33 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 3:29 pm to
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You're a big pharma cheerleader and they're never going to warrant scrutiny in your eyes


Nah, I am more interested in historical accuracy in this thread, and you are not reaching that standard. I can 100% guarantee that big pharma is going to continue its path of complete regulatory and academic capture. You have no real interest in undoing it.

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It's not like that revelation shocks any of us based on the other left-wing positions you gleefully take as evidenced by your post history.


The history of human infectious disease is not left-wing dude. Your brain has been fried by the internet.

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We were never going to agree on this point, just like we'd never agree on any of the other ones.


Well, yeah, you are wrong really often.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 3:31 pm to
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How long did it take to get your dialed in?


You should slow down a bit and try taking your time to write this sentence to avoid confusion. I don’t take SSRI’s but it takes 4-8 weeks to reach therapeutic levels. Again, that is just a fact of those medications.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77631 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 3:34 pm to
Wow, autocorrect left an "s" off of a word. You totally got me.

Let me be more direct - how long did it take your psychiatrist to get your antipsychotic meds to a level where your broken, liberal filth brain can allow you to function in proper society?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 3:39 pm to
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Let me be more direct - how long did it take your psychiatrist to get your antipsychotic meds to a level where your broken, liberal filth brain can allow you to function in proper society?


lol, you are so mad. Are you gonna start a nonsensical screed about something else for which you have no experience or understanding here too? Maybe your next topic should be the evils of anti-psychotics and their sundry extra-pyramidal symptoms.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46368 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 3:41 pm to
I don’t agree with the vax schedule and all shots now “required” but I don’t agree with ending all mandates. Herd immunity for small pox, polio and other diseases that killed and/or maimed children is a real thing.
Posted by BuzzSaw 12
The Dark Side Of The Moon
Member since Dec 2010
7006 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 3:43 pm to
You're arguing with the dumbest of vaxxtards and a so-called doctor I wouldn't trust to treat a pet hamster.

How dare we give people choices as to what they put in their bodies. "My body my choice" is the cry from the left when it comes to murdering unborn children but when it comes to vaccines that rationale is quickly abandoned. That's (D)ifferent! Leftists are the most morally bankrupt humans on this planet. If their damn vaccines were so great then they wouldn't need to worry about who chooses to take that crap but you'll never get them to admit that.
Posted by GrassyKnoll556
Member since Feb 2025
322 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 3:45 pm to
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isn't unhealthy food restrictions on SNAP rationalized this way?


What food restrictions? Is Coke still available? Ramen?
Posted by GrassyKnoll556
Member since Feb 2025
322 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 3:46 pm to
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I don’t agree with the vax schedule and all shots now “required” but I don’t agree with ending all mandates. Herd immunity for small pox, polio and other diseases that killed and/or maimed children is a real thing.


bullshite, measles was already on the way out well prior to the vaccine.
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