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Florida Politics: “National support for Ron DeSantis hits low point — again”

Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:45 pm
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:45 pm
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For the superstitious, the number 13 is unlucky … and when followed by a percentage mark, it’s not great for political campaigns either, as Ron DeSantis may be realizing.


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This represents a low point for DeSantis’ support and is among the most significant leads for Trump since tracking began in December 2022.


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Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164273 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:47 pm to
It almost feels bad bodybagging the Ronbots so hard. Gotta give them credit for being true believers though. They never wavered from the script when debating over Ron's support with them. I'd say it feels good to be proven right but they already know that.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73863 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:49 pm to
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It almost feels bad bodybagging the Ronbots so hard. Gotta give them credit for being true believers though. They never wavered from the script when debating over Ron's support with them. I'd say it feels good to be proven right but they already know that.


All of this. Some of the higher paid bots are still holding on to the hopium
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 2:18 pm to
We just all haven't decided to give up and let the Democrats have an easy W next year yet.

What happened in NH last night is yet another preview of how running Trump again is going to work out. On the positive front though you guys can come up with fun nicknames and pat yourselves on the back until election night where you can say it was stolen again and ignore the folks telling you why Trump will lose by saying any Republican would have lost anyway.

Democrats are laughing their asses off at you.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
5027 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 2:28 pm to
The more you run him down, the fewer people vote for the 80 year old big spender. You’re chewing off your own leg, and it’s funny
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
9666 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:10 pm to
Huh? Posting an article from Florida that discusses current poling is “running him down” ? You’re so weak that you let what people post on a message board affect who you vote for? Talk about a brainless sheep. This country really is fricked. Please don’t procreate.
This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 3:11 pm
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
14265 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:15 pm to
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Gotta give them credit for being true believers though. They never wavered from the script when debating over Ron's support with them


And we’ll be offering up some big “I told you so’s” in November 2024. Unfortunately.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79221 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:33 pm to
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Democrats are laughing their asses off at you.


You are somehow even stupider than your posts suggest

Were the Dems laughing in ‘16?
Were they panicking like a mf’er in ‘20?

Oh nevermind simpleton, there was muh no fraud.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
5027 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:38 pm to
The POS lives on here and starts a dozen posts per day on the same topic
This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 3:55 pm
Posted by jackamo3300
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2004
2901 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:39 pm to
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On the positive front though you guys can come up with fun nicknames and pat yourselves on the back until election night where you can say it was stolen again and ignore the folks telling you why Trump will lose by saying any Republican would have lost anyway.


Stay the course. Never admit defeat. Even though as an acolyte of DeSantis, it by necessity requires a false belief in another fallacy - that the last election was forthright, above board, and beyond reproach.

This preoccupation with someone who has never proven anything beyond that he's a regional candidate, is so reminiscent of 2015 when the Cruzifixes were in an absolute frenzy, hysteria, seemingly lined up and eager to show the level of virulent hatred towards Trump, insisting that he couldn't win, using every spurious excuse from "not articulate enough, to gruff and insulting."

Yet in keeping with the preoccupation with "contradictions" as the communist bolsheviks insisted was something to be avoided, some of them now hold a curious admiration for a Putin.

There's a likelihood that for the most part the Cruzifixes and DeSantis-ites are one and the same - of course with exceptions.

But not with the same amount of verve and virulence, so you all are going to have to step up your game. Even with the continuing subsidence of popularity we keep seeing daily from the DeSantis camp.

Ordinarily, something that only deserves to be chalked up to political pre-election rhetoric.

The only problem in retrospect, had the Cruzites gotten their way, we would now be nearing the end of Obama's 3rd term, with little to no prospects, or hope of ever reversing the slide.

At least that brief 4 years stirred up some glimmer of hope.

Notice how it took a few years to regroup, but the Clinton Global Initiative (influence peddlers without borders) has reared its ugly head again. How much more plain can it get.

Imagine how powerful and irreversible it would be now had Cruz been the Repubs' standard bearer.

Instead of a brief 4-year respite from the nation's 50-year slouch where some of us could see how good things could be under the right conditions.

But it requires actually winning the position first.

"By what ever means necessary."

We're never going to have some idyllic meld of Locke, W. J. Bryan, E. Burke, Montesquieu, Churchill running for the office as what some seemed to be hinting at in 2015.

The same callow, naive belief is at work presently, and it's not with the Trumpists.
Posted by International_Aggie
Member since Oct 2012
1088 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:49 pm to
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Even though as an acolyte of DeSantis, it by necessity requires a false belief in another fallacy - that the last election was forthright, above board, and beyond reproach.


No it doesn’t. It’s possible to think the last election was stolen due to fraud and still think Desantis would be a better candidate.

The two are not mutually exclusive.
This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 3:50 pm
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73863 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:50 pm to
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We just all haven't decided to give up and let the Democrats have an easy W next year yet.



If you are supporting a guy at 13% in his own party yhere couldnt be an easier W for the Ds

How do you ppl not understand this?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95816 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:51 pm to
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bodybagging


Sure you didn’t mean “teabagging”?


Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17916 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:54 pm to
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How do you ppl not understand this?

Because we understand the difference between a primary and the general.
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
9666 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:54 pm to
What’s the topic?
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17916 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:57 pm to
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I'd say it feels good to be proven right but they already know that.

You haven't been proven right. You'll only be proven right if Trump wins the general (I think he will) and goes on to have a successful second term from the conservative POV - I think that's 50/50 at best. If Trump reverts to DT of 2020, it'll be "Ronbots" on here bodybagging you. If DT presides like his superfans fervently believe he will, I will gladly be in these threads saying I was wrong/eating crow.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
5027 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:25 pm to
For many, Trump HAS shown us what he can and will do, and it’s ugly. I’ll go with the guy who has done the right thing, even if it’s local
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
9666 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:10 pm to
So you’ll sit out if he’s the nominee?
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
15560 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:12 pm to
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We just all haven't decided to give up and let the Democrats have an easy W next year yet.

Texas A&M doesn’t produce America-first talent. Dead giveaway you’re establishment / RINO
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
5027 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:25 pm to
If he’s a bigger spender than Biden, and he was to his point, then neither earn my vote
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