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re: Florence S.C. pastor refuses to give communion to Joe Biden

Posted on 10/28/19 at 10:29 pm to
Posted by DeathAndTaxes
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 10:29 pm to
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God set up different peoples and different nations for a reason. It’s unnatural this mixing up that’s being done now, and it’s so clearly and obviously the most evil among us pushing it. Very anti-Jesus people


Wut?
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 10:42 pm to
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God set up different peoples and different nations for a reason. It’s unnatural this mixing up that’s being done now, and it’s so clearly and obviously the most evil among us pushing it. Very anti-Jesus people.




dafuq? that's a no from me dawg. i'm not a globalist proponent, but us being forever separated is against everything in Acts.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 10:46 pm to
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This is a priest enforcing Church rules, which he has every right to do so.

What Church rule did Biden break that should prevent him from receiving communion?
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
32392 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 10:53 pm to
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What Church rule did Biden break that should prevent him from receiving communion?



don't be obtuse. the catholic church views abortion as a sin, and a politician advocating for abortion rights would be seen as defending sin.

there are a lot of complicated scenarios, but this ain't one.

it'd be different if Biden said he didn't think abortion was wrong, but he has said his politics override his faith on this matter.

Trump is a cheating, egotistical philanderer. I can't speak to the state of his soul, but if he is being faithful to his wife currently and has repented of his sins, he'd be welcome to communion in most churches. I disagree with him early and often, but several of his stances would be grey area.

Joe and Nancy have both said they are violating their own opinion of sin in light of political expediency.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
29227 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 11:20 pm to
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Even though I think his reasoning is sound, I don’t think a priest should shame someone like that. If a person wants to live their life in sin and still receive communion, that’s between them and God and the priest should back off.


This is about as warped a view of the role of a priest as one can have.
Posted by AustinTigr
Austin, TX
Member since Dec 2004
2937 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 11:25 pm to
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because they are all for the pro-illegal and wealth redistribution policies of the Dems.


Easy there. There is politics in the Church the same as society. I personally know priests who strongly prioritize the right to life over any of the SJW causes.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 11:27 pm to
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That pastor probably gives communion, knowingly or unknowingly, to folks who have broken every single one of the Ten Commandments


Probably , but that’s not really relevant nor does it demonstrate some hypocrisy
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 11:34 pm to
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But on what moral high ground can you stand and proclaim him a bad person, but idolize Donald Trump? I wouldn’t think moral fiber a thread that you wish to pull too hard.


Many Dems and Trumpkins alike have a hard time grasping the fact that many who voted for him in 2016 believe him morally to be a disgusting piece of shite who'd never seen the inside of a Sunday School class. But they believe he's a disgusting POS who will appoint pro life justices to SCOTUS and protect religious liberty. I know many personally.

And if the scales at some point start to tip in the other direction, don't think for one minute that evangelicals wouldn't salivate at the idea of turning out to reelect a President Mike Pence.

Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 11:34 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/28/19 at 11:35 pm
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 11:36 pm to
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quote:
God set up different peoples and different nations for a reason. It’s unnatural this mixing up that’s being done now
good lord



This is the answer to the frequent questions about why I support who I support.
Posted by DeathAndTaxes
Member since Oct 2019
238 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 11:42 pm to
I believe that there are many people that feel that way, or voted for him because they felt he was the lesser of two evils.

Those are not the people I am referring to. I am referring to the people who would blast Biden as a heathen in this thread, but celebrate Trump as America’s savior and a man worthy of praise in other threads.

I don’t see how you can reconcile those notions.
Posted by DeathAndTaxes
Member since Oct 2019
238 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 11:54 pm to
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Trump is a cheating, egotistical philanderer. I can't speak to the state of his soul, but if he is being faithful to his wife currently and has repented of his sins, he'd be welcome to communion in most churches. I disagree with him early and often, but several of his stances would be grey area


Ignoring the obvious fact that he’s not Catholic, he couldn’t receive communion for a number if reasons. Being remarried is one, not being penitent is another. Reconciliation cannot occur without contrition, and he doesn’t see anything wrong with his prideful behavior, or his turning a blind eye to cry of the foreigner, or the injustice of the wage earner.

Not to mention, I believe that the official stance of the Catholic Church is that all abortion is a mortal sin, regardless of the reason. Trump supports abortion in the event of rape, incest, or danger to the mother. That would throw him in the same boat as Biden if someone is being a hard liner about it.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
29227 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 11:56 pm to
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That only God should punish sinners.



I love it when people who think they know a little bit about the Bible try to weigh in on what God and or Christians should or shouldn't do when it comes to church practices. The New Testament clearly lays out the instructions for withdrawing fellowship from an unrepentant person...which Joe Biden clearly is. For you to call it "punishment" is laughable and shows nothing but ignorance on your part. Far from punishing Biden, the purpose of denying him communion is to get him to repent and to keep him from spending eternity in hell.

Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
29227 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 11:57 pm to
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I believe that there are many people that feel that way, or voted for him because they felt he was the lesser of two evils.

Those are not the people I am referring to. I am referring to the people who would blast Biden as a heathen in this thread, but celebrate Trump as America’s savior and a man worthy of praise in other threads.

I don’t see how you can reconcile those notions.


I agree with you 100%.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46851 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 11:58 pm to
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God set up different peoples and different nations for a reason. It’s unnatural this mixing up that’s being done now, and it’s so clearly and obviously the most evil among us pushing it. Very anti-Jesus people.
This is very wrong. As someone else alluded to, Acts was about Christ building His Church from various nations and tongues. African Jews, Roman Jews, the Ethiopian eunuch; there are only two types of people: those who belong to Christ and those that don’t.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
29227 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 12:00 am to
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I don’t think a priest should shame someone like that.



Actually, Scripture teaches that such a person most definitely should be shamed by the Church.

"Take special note of anyone who does not obey our instruction in this letter. Do not associate with them, in order that they may feel ashamed." (2 Thess. 3:16)



Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28107 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 12:00 am to
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But on what moral high ground can you stand and proclaim him a bad person, but idolize Donald Trump? I wouldn’t think moral fiber a thread that you wish to pull too hard.


Cuz consensual extramarital sex is pretty much the same thing as legalizing child murder, right?
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28107 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 12:04 am to
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This is the answer to the frequent questions about why I support who I support.


That was his first post, probably an alt you created so you could virtue signal.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
29227 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 12:04 am to
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Trump is a cheating, egotistical philanderer. I can't speak to the state of his soul, but if he is being faithful to his wife currently and has repented of his sins, he'd be welcome to communion in most churches.


If he's repented of his sins and is faithful to his wife, then he would no longer be a cheating philanderer, would he?
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
24997 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 12:07 am to
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It’s the only option. Otherwise they’ll end up like the Episcopal church.



god forbid

FWIW, if there was an “American” denomination, it’d be hard to argue against the Anglican Episcopal church. it’s founding on the continent nearly mirrored the revolution
This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 12:08 am
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