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re: FISA IG report IN-GAME thread (JUST RELEASED)
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:32 pm to Snipe
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:32 pm to Snipe
LOCK THESE PEOPLE UP!!!
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FBI leadership supported relying on Steele's reporting to seek a FISA order on Page after being advised of, and giving consideration to, concerns expressed by Stuart Evans, then NSD's Deputy Assistant Attorney General with oversight responsibility over OI, that Steele may have been hired by someone associated with presidential candidate Clinton or the DNC, and that the foreign intelligence to be collected through the FISA order would probably not be worth the "risk" of being criticized later for collecting communications of someone (Carter Page) who was "politically sensitive."
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Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:33 pm to Muthsera
Page 295-296, Bruce Ohr was involved with secret meetings with Strozk, Page, Weissman, and others about how to circumvent Trump appointees possibly getting involved in the money laundering case against Manafort (conjured up, likely, as a failsafe charge to explain all the "investigating" they had done on him).
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:33 pm to Muthsera
Full Barr statement:
Nothing is more important than the credibility and integrity of the FBI and the Department of Justice. That is why we must hold our investigators and prosecutors to the highest ethical and professional standards. The Inspector General’s investigation has provided critical transparency and accountability, and his work is a credit to the Department of Justice. I would like to thank the Inspector General and his team.
The Inspector General’s report now makes clear that the FBI launched an intrusive investigation of a U.S. presidential campaign on the thinnest of suspicions that, in my view, were insufficient to justify the steps taken. It is also clear that, from its inception, the evidence produced by the investigation was consistently exculpatory. Nevertheless, the investigation and surveillance was pushed forward for the duration of the campaign and deep into President Trump’s administration. In the rush to obtain and maintain FISA surveillance of Trump campaign associates, FBI officials misled the FISA court, omitted critical exculpatory facts from their filings, and suppressed or ignored information negating the reliability of their principal source. The Inspector General found the explanations given for these actions unsatisfactory. While most of the misconduct identified by the Inspector General was committed in 2016 and 2017 by a small group of now-former FBI officials, the malfeasance and misfeasance detailed in the Inspector General’s report reflects a clear abuse of the FISA process.
FISA is an essential tool for the protection of the safety of the American people. The Department of Justice and the FBI are committed to taking whatever steps are necessary to rectify the abuses that occurred and to ensure the integrity of the FISA process going forward.
No one is more dismayed about the handling of these FISA applications than Director Wray. I have full confidence in Director Wray and his team at the FBI, as well as the thousands of dedicated line agents who work tirelessly to protect our country. I thank the Director for the comprehensive set of proposed reforms he is announcing today, and I look forward to working with him to implement these and any other appropriate measures.
With respect to DOJ personnel discussed in the report, the Department will follow all appropriate processes and procedures, including as to any potential disciplinary action.
Nothing is more important than the credibility and integrity of the FBI and the Department of Justice. That is why we must hold our investigators and prosecutors to the highest ethical and professional standards. The Inspector General’s investigation has provided critical transparency and accountability, and his work is a credit to the Department of Justice. I would like to thank the Inspector General and his team.
The Inspector General’s report now makes clear that the FBI launched an intrusive investigation of a U.S. presidential campaign on the thinnest of suspicions that, in my view, were insufficient to justify the steps taken. It is also clear that, from its inception, the evidence produced by the investigation was consistently exculpatory. Nevertheless, the investigation and surveillance was pushed forward for the duration of the campaign and deep into President Trump’s administration. In the rush to obtain and maintain FISA surveillance of Trump campaign associates, FBI officials misled the FISA court, omitted critical exculpatory facts from their filings, and suppressed or ignored information negating the reliability of their principal source. The Inspector General found the explanations given for these actions unsatisfactory. While most of the misconduct identified by the Inspector General was committed in 2016 and 2017 by a small group of now-former FBI officials, the malfeasance and misfeasance detailed in the Inspector General’s report reflects a clear abuse of the FISA process.
FISA is an essential tool for the protection of the safety of the American people. The Department of Justice and the FBI are committed to taking whatever steps are necessary to rectify the abuses that occurred and to ensure the integrity of the FISA process going forward.
No one is more dismayed about the handling of these FISA applications than Director Wray. I have full confidence in Director Wray and his team at the FBI, as well as the thousands of dedicated line agents who work tirelessly to protect our country. I thank the Director for the comprehensive set of proposed reforms he is announcing today, and I look forward to working with him to implement these and any other appropriate measures.
With respect to DOJ personnel discussed in the report, the Department will follow all appropriate processes and procedures, including as to any potential disciplinary action.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:34 pm to Bunyan
Looks like there was at least ONE honest person in that office.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:34 pm to Muthsera
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Page 295-296, Bruce Ohr was involved with secret meetings with Strozk, Page, Weissman, and others about how to circumvent Trump appointees possibly getting involved in the money laundering case against Manafort (conjured up, likely, as a failsafe charge to explain all the "investigating" they had done on him).
Jesus. Where are the indictments?
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:35 pm to Bunyan
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We found that the FBI did not have information corroborating the specific allegations against Carter Page in Steele's reporting when it relied upon his reports in the first FISA application or subsequent renewal applications
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:37 pm to Bunyan
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Jesus. Where are the indictments?
shite in one hand and indict in the other.
Let us know which one fills first.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:37 pm to Jbird
has there been any recommendations for prosecution in this IG report? If not, a big waste of time
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:37 pm to Jjdoc
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I'm bracing for a usual, nobody really did anything wrong and we all just need to get along before the American people get upset with us.
I agree. SSDD.
The whole metric is the same bullshite as other "investigations" of late, in so much as you can't actually prove "bias" any more than you can prove "intent" or "motivation".
"We found some bothersome things and questionable reasonings, but no reasonable prosecutor would bring charges. We will put measures in place to make sure this doesn't happen again."
That metric is the get out of jail free card.
Again...the swamp will do nothing that interferes with their control over the power structure.
Period.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:38 pm to Dale51
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Our review found that FBI personnel fell far short of the requirement in FBI policy that they ensure that all factual statements in a FISA application are "scrupulously accurate."
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:38 pm to Bunyan
The pretentious "dance" and Kabuki Theater will continue to the point of nausea.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:38 pm to Bunyan
So what exactly is being released that we didn’t seemingly know? What is the next step? Are there any civil or criminal issues that need to be handled by a real court not the elected body playing court?
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:39 pm to teke184
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On or about August 17, 2016, in response to the Crossfire Hurricane team's prior Carter Page name trace request, the Crossfire Hurricane team received a memorandum from another U.S. government agency detailing its prior interactions with Page, including that Page had been approved as an "operational contact" for the other agency from 2008 to 2013. 489 The memorandum also detailed the information that Page had provided to the other agency concerning his prior contacts with certain Russian intelligence officers. As detailed in Chapters Five and Eight, the Crossfire Hurricane team did not accurately describe to OI the nature and extent of the information that the FBI received from the other agency, which we found was highly relevant to an evaluation of the FISA request.
Additionally, in August 2016, Page made statements to an FBI CHS that, if true, were in tension with the reporting the FBI received subsequently from Steele, alleging that Page was being used as an intermediary by Manafort to conspire with Russia. The FBI did not inform OI of Page's statements before any of the four FISA applications were filed, and did not inform OI of the CHS operation until June 2017, shortly before filing the last FISA application.
oh my god
so they had information from the NSA or CIA that Page was working with them and had already provided dirt on Russia and EVEN THEN, they kept going and had to use the Steele Dossier (to get enough PC to get the FISA warrant), when THEY KNEW IT WAS NOT TRUE BASED ON PAGE'S STATEMENTS CORROBORATED BY HIS HANDLING AGENCY
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:40 pm to Bunyan
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Where are the fricking indictments?
thats up to Durham and Barr. the IG does not indict people
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:41 pm to Choctaw
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the IG does not indict people
can it at least recommend prosecutions? I thought the IG could do that
This post was edited on 12/9/19 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:41 pm to BIGFOOD
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None of these inaccuracies and omissions were brought to the attention of OI before the last FISA application was filed in June 2017. Consequently, these failures were repeated in all three renewal applications. Further, as we discuss later, we identified 10 additional significant errors in the renewal applications.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:42 pm to Bunyan
where is Durham? From Barr's statement.
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While most of the misconduct identified by the Inspector General was committed in 2016 and 2017 by a small group of now-former FBI officials, the malfeasance and misfeasance detailed in the Inspector General’s report reflects a clear abuse of the FISA process.
I hate to even ask but is firing all that will happen to them? I read Barr's statement after my post on the top of this page. Wray fixed everything. (Barr praised Wray and said he re wrote regulations)
I see no declassification's as it should have been (as reported) I see no referrals but muh training new regs. Where is Durham? What am I missing?
This post was edited on 12/9/19 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
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However, without corroboration, it was particularly important for the FISA applications to articulate to the court the FBI's knowledge of Steele's background and its assessment of his reliability. On these points, the applications advised the court that Steele was believed to be a reliable source for three reasons: his professional background, his history of work as an FBI CHS since 2013, and his prior reporting, which the FBI described as "corroborated and used in criminal proceedings." As described below, the representations about Steele's prior reporting were overstated and not approved by Steele's handling agent, as required by the Woods Procedures. Our analysis of the FBI's assessment of the Steele reporting is described later in this chapter.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:43 pm to Choctaw
"Two witnesses, Glenn Simpson and Jonathan Winer (a former Department of State official), declined our requests for voluntary interviews, and we were unable to compel their testimony"
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:45 pm to Music_City_Tiger
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