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Finished the “Filthy Rich: Jeffery Epstein” miniseries today. 3 Questions
Posted on 8/22/20 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 8/22/20 at 7:56 pm
1. I still have never seen an explanation (or even a real attempt to find one) for where he got his money. How is this not a “front and center” question?
2. How the frick did he continue this for years, even when people with no skin in the game (rimshot) saw what was going on?
3. Odds Billy Jeff or Prince Andrew face justice?
Bonus: Do you believe Dershowitz is “innocent”?
2. How the frick did he continue this for years, even when people with no skin in the game (rimshot) saw what was going on?
3. Odds Billy Jeff or Prince Andrew face justice?
Bonus: Do you believe Dershowitz is “innocent”?
Posted on 8/22/20 at 7:57 pm to Ag Zwin
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3. Odds Billy Jeff or Prince Andrew face justice
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Posted on 8/22/20 at 7:58 pm to Ag Zwin
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Do you believe Dershowitz is “innocent”?
Nope
Posted on 8/22/20 at 8:02 pm to Ag Zwin
Finance. Ponzi scheme, stole money and real estate.
Posted on 8/22/20 at 8:02 pm to Ag Zwin
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I still have never seen an explanation (or even a real attempt to find one) for where he got his money.
He got his money from Les Wexner and other rich levantine tribe members. The real question is, why did they give it to him?
Posted on 8/22/20 at 8:04 pm to Ag Zwin
1. MBrands Les Wexner was his only hedge fund "client"
Posted on 8/22/20 at 8:07 pm to uppermidwestbama
His earliest mentor, quoted directly in one of the Netflex documentaries, said Epstein stole $40,000,000 from him. That's a pretty good start for a bankroll. Dersh., my opinion, is not innocent. He repeatedly denies ever being on the island except for that one visit, with his family. His alleged rape of the minor occurred in Epstein's N.Y.C. apt. He has never addressed that.
Posted on 8/22/20 at 8:08 pm to Ag Zwin
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2. How the frick did he continue this for years, even when people with no skin in the game (rimshot) saw what was going on?
The limited owner I thought
Posted on 8/22/20 at 8:56 pm to Ag Zwin
Barr and Trump will go down in this mess also...
Posted on 8/22/20 at 8:59 pm to AlwaysPutsSeatDown
Epstein victims have gone on record saying Trump was never on the island, EXTREMELY cooperative with NUC police during their investigations, and a perfect gentleman in public settings.
Do better.
Do better.
This post was edited on 8/22/20 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 8/22/20 at 9:04 pm to Ag Zwin
I thought it was strange that they showed so many pictures of him with a Trump. Only 1 with slick Willie. Of course all the photos with a Trump had Melania in them and they were legit social event photos. Filmmaker did his/her best to tarnish Trump. Otherwise a good show.
This post was edited on 8/22/20 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 8/22/20 at 9:09 pm to Ag Zwin
Always remember Epstein & Maxwell wouldn’t have provided underage kids unless their party guests wanted them.
Posted on 8/22/20 at 9:14 pm to Ag Zwin
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where he got his money
He worked for Israeli military intelligence. It was a blackmail scheme, and the banking was just a cover.
He wasn’t making trades.
Posted on 8/22/20 at 9:36 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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other rich levantine tribe members.
Is this a fancy way to say
?
Posted on 8/23/20 at 8:45 pm to AlwaysPutsSeatDown
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Barr and Trump will go down in this mess also...
Posted on 8/24/20 at 2:14 am to Lima Whiskey
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He worked for Israeli military intelligence. It was a blackmail scheme, and the banking was just a cover.
He wasn’t making trades.
Bingo.
Posted on 8/24/20 at 2:22 am to Droplinebacker
All roads lead to Rome. Tale as old as time. Epstein's role was that of a honeypot.
NEXUM, Rom. civ. law. Viewed as to its object and legal effect, nexum was either the transfer of the ownership of a thing, or the transfer of a thing to a creditor as a security. Accordingly in one sense nexum included mancipium, in another sense mancipium and nexum are opposed in the same way in which sale and mortgage or pledge are opposed. The formal part of both transactions consisted in a transfer per Des et libram. The person who became nexus by the effect of a nexum, placed himself in a servile condition, not becoming a slave, his ingenuitas being only in suspense, and was said nexum inire. The phrases nexi datio, nexi liberatio, respectively express the contracting and the release from the obligation.
2. The Roman law, as to the payment of borrowed money, was very strict. A curious passage of Gellius (xx. 1) gives us the ancient mode of legal procedure in the case of debt as fixed by the Twelve Tables. If the debtor admitted the debt, or bad been condemned in the amount of the debt by a judex, he had thirty days allowed him for payment. At the expiration of this time he was liable to the manus. injectio, and ultimately to be assigned over to the creditor (addictus) by the sentence of the praetor. The creditor was required to keep him for sixty days in chains, during which time he publicly exposed the debtor, on three nundinae, and proclaimed the amount of his debt. If no person released the prisoner by paying the debt, the creditor might sell him as a slave or put him to death. If there were several debtors, the letter of the law allowed them to cut the debtor in pieces, and take their share of his body in proportion to their debt. Gellius says that there was no instance of a creditor ever having adopted this extreme mode of satisfying his debt. But the creditor might treat the debtor, who was addictus, as a slave, and compel him to work out his debt, and the treatment was often very severe. In this passage Gellius does not speak of nexi but only of addicti, which is sometimes alleged as evidence of the identity of nexus and addictus, but it proves no such identity. If a nexus is what he is here supposed to be, the laws of the Twelve Tables could not apply; for when a man became nexus with respect to one creditor, he could not become nexus to another; and if he became nexus to several at once, in this case the creditors must abide by their contract in taking a joint security. This law of the Twelve Tables only applied to the case of a debtor being signed over by a judicial sentence to several debtors, and it provided for a settlement of their conflicting claims. The precise condition of a nexus has, however, been a subject of much discussion among scholars. Smith, Dict. Rom. & Gr. Antiq. h.v., and vide Mancipitem.
NEXUM, Rom. civ. law. Viewed as to its object and legal effect, nexum was either the transfer of the ownership of a thing, or the transfer of a thing to a creditor as a security. Accordingly in one sense nexum included mancipium, in another sense mancipium and nexum are opposed in the same way in which sale and mortgage or pledge are opposed. The formal part of both transactions consisted in a transfer per Des et libram. The person who became nexus by the effect of a nexum, placed himself in a servile condition, not becoming a slave, his ingenuitas being only in suspense, and was said nexum inire. The phrases nexi datio, nexi liberatio, respectively express the contracting and the release from the obligation.
2. The Roman law, as to the payment of borrowed money, was very strict. A curious passage of Gellius (xx. 1) gives us the ancient mode of legal procedure in the case of debt as fixed by the Twelve Tables. If the debtor admitted the debt, or bad been condemned in the amount of the debt by a judex, he had thirty days allowed him for payment. At the expiration of this time he was liable to the manus. injectio, and ultimately to be assigned over to the creditor (addictus) by the sentence of the praetor. The creditor was required to keep him for sixty days in chains, during which time he publicly exposed the debtor, on three nundinae, and proclaimed the amount of his debt. If no person released the prisoner by paying the debt, the creditor might sell him as a slave or put him to death. If there were several debtors, the letter of the law allowed them to cut the debtor in pieces, and take their share of his body in proportion to their debt. Gellius says that there was no instance of a creditor ever having adopted this extreme mode of satisfying his debt. But the creditor might treat the debtor, who was addictus, as a slave, and compel him to work out his debt, and the treatment was often very severe. In this passage Gellius does not speak of nexi but only of addicti, which is sometimes alleged as evidence of the identity of nexus and addictus, but it proves no such identity. If a nexus is what he is here supposed to be, the laws of the Twelve Tables could not apply; for when a man became nexus with respect to one creditor, he could not become nexus to another; and if he became nexus to several at once, in this case the creditors must abide by their contract in taking a joint security. This law of the Twelve Tables only applied to the case of a debtor being signed over by a judicial sentence to several debtors, and it provided for a settlement of their conflicting claims. The precise condition of a nexus has, however, been a subject of much discussion among scholars. Smith, Dict. Rom. & Gr. Antiq. h.v., and vide Mancipitem.
Posted on 8/24/20 at 4:43 am to memphis tiger
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3. Odds Billy Jeff or Prince Andrew face justice
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I’d be willing to bet that things get real interesting in Trumps second term. Will have zero fricks to give after the election.
Posted on 8/24/20 at 5:09 am to Ag Zwin
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