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re: Feud between The Daily Wire and Steven Crowder goes public...

Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:35 am to
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11657 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:35 am to
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Your big brain sure showed me.




His sub base is $5-6M/month in recurring revenue but continue to flame away instead bringing any value to this thread
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:36 am to
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I said anyone, so that would remove the idea that he would be special.


You said "everyone who doesn’t present the narrative that big tech wants" which you apparently believe includes Crowder.

So...back to you.
Posted by Zephyrius
Wharton, La.
Member since Dec 2004
8625 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:36 am to
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if they’re going to let him get away with what he said, Crowder shouldn’t be worried.


Yeah Matt Walsh, Jordan Peterson, and Michael Knowles take on some hotwire social issues and have not been yanked from youtube. Twitter has been the fascists in most of the cancelations
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282189 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:36 am to
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Are DW content providers allowed to discuss the 2020 election fraud? IDK because I'm not a DW customer.


Ben is a bigass grifter. He toes the line when told.

Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16144 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:37 am to
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What is the alternative? I suppose that Crowder could always work for free


So essentially demonetization because he doesn’t present the narrative that is deemed allowable.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:37 am to
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it’s about the ability for him to lose revenue based on something he can’t control.


He can control it. He just doesn't think he should have to.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
13473 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:37 am to
So instead of allowing businesses to protect themselves from loss of revenue, you think they should just give crowder a blank check to do whatever he wants, revenue streams be damned?

Bottom line(wether anyone likes it or not) these people depend on revenue and exposure from big tech.





Thats not DW’s fault. They’re fighting it as much as anyone else. But reality is reality. You dont stay in business by burning benjamins
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16144 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:38 am to
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Do you think YouTube should be forced to pay Crowder, regardless of what he says on their platform?


Should a kid who demonstrates toys with his parents on YouTube get paid?
This post was edited on 1/19/23 at 8:39 am
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
57874 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:39 am to
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- The Daily Wire would pay Crowder $50 million over four years, with the option of paying him $25 million for a two-year renewal

how is he worth even a quarter of that?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282189 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:39 am to
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They’re fighting it as much as anyone else


DW is part of the problem.

Say something about Israel.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:40 am to
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Should a kid who demonstrates toys with his parents on YouTube get paid?


If YouTube decides to pay him, sure.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16144 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:41 am to
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So instead of allowing businesses to protect themselves from loss of revenue, you think they should just give crowder a blank check to do whatever he wants, revenue streams be damned?


If he’s bringing views/clicks, then what is the issue?

And how can there be a loss of revenue?

quote:

Bottom line(wether anyone likes it or not) these people depend on revenue and exposure from big tech.


That’s the same as saying a fisherman depend upon the seas for fish. There’s no changing that medium.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133227 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:41 am to
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I realize Tucker is making bank at Fox, but I'm actually kind of stunned he hasn't jumped ship to start his own thing yet.


I would think he is under contract. Maybe when the Fox News/Tucker contract expires he will venture out on his own.

Furthermore, Tucker is carrying Fox News' streaming service, Fox Nation. Tucker has single handily made that part of the network successful and is an extremely important part of Fox News going forward as boomers die off. After Gen X, the majority of content will be on demand.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
13473 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:42 am to
According to who? He told DW he doesnt even know his sub numbers.

And how many of those subs already sub to DW+ there is a lot of overlap in audiences. So whats DW’s pickup?

If he is certain of that figure, then its really easy to negotiate the contract.



Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16144 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:42 am to
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You said "everyone who doesn’t present the narrative that big tech wants" which you apparently believe includes Crowder.


And includes anyone else who has options that are deemed not tolerable. So back to you
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282189 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:42 am to
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So essentially demonetization because he doesn’t present the narrative that is deemed allowable.



The cost of doing business today.

Honesty is not a value modern humans appreciate. We all must pretend.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
13473 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:43 am to
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He'd be a moron to work for somebody else.



And yet thats all hes done the entire time hes been doing his show. But great contribution to this thread!
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16144 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:43 am to
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If YouTube decides to pay him, sure.


What is the basis for the kids pay who has the YouTube channel with his parents?
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16144 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:44 am to
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He can control it. He just doesn't think he should have to.


How can he control it?
Tell me what he (and anyone else like crowder) has to do.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:44 am to
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It’s not about the money, it’s about the ability for him to lose revenue based on something he can’t control. We have seen companies banning people for saying there are two genders. Based on that, there is no possible way to say he controls his own situation.
You are not asking DW to be his employer, you are asking them to be his insurance company, providing a guaranteed revenue stream.
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