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re: Felony hate crime charges for man who berated woman wearing Puerto Rican shirt

Posted on 7/13/18 at 8:16 pm to
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15718 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 8:16 pm to
Welcome to Toddy's america...where whitey is charged with crimes for being white. Where it's okay to publicly harass people with dissenting opinions but not ok for whitey to do so.

This is that slippery slope we warned them about 10 years ago and they said we were just paranoid.
This post was edited on 7/13/18 at 8:17 pm
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27251 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 8:16 pm to
quote:

Yet no hate crime charges against the black woman who assaulted a 92 year old Mexican man and told him to "go back to his country".



Hate crime charges were definitely more justified in that case than this. This seems absolutely absurd on it's face.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 8:17 pm to
I find it very interesting that it depends on the flag, not the action, to determine whether or not hate crimes are charged.

Berate someone wearing a confederate battle flag? No problem.

Berate someone wearing a Puerto Rican flag? Prison time forever.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
42154 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 8:17 pm to
quote:

I can’t think of a single purpose you serve as a voting citizen of this country.

Bookmark this thread and throw it in the face of any prog on this board who tries to tell you liberals support free speech. If we didn't have a strong judiciary in this country at the state and federal level, we'd have scores of people in liberal areas in prison for the crime of offending someone.
Posted by RTM4
Pflugerville
Member since Apr 2018
2368 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 8:17 pm to
quote:

Yet no hate crime charges against the black woman who assaulted a 92 year old Mexican man and told him to "go back to his country".

Explain why one is being charged and the other isn't, and why you don't give a shite that the black woman isn't!

I'll hang up and listen


You dumb arse cracker, don't you know only white people cannot speak their minds or have freedom of speech or association.

You dam KKK supporting racist.

That is the modern day left. F' it, if they brand me that and paint me in a corner well then I have nothing to lose.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59473 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 8:18 pm to
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Hell no,


Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15718 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 8:20 pm to
quote:

Hate crime charges were definitely more justified in that case than this. This seems absolutely absurd on it's face.





No, the entire premise of "hate crimes" is what's absurd.

There should be no more or less charges for assaulting a 92 year old Mexican man than would be for assaulting a 92 year old white man.

The reason one is being charged and the other isn't is because people like you wanted hate crimes laws to be arbitrarily applied.

It's pathetic for you to call this absurd when you're getting the EXACT outcome that you wanted.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35333 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 8:21 pm to
I assume you're posting this because you think it's bullshite and love the First Amendment.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 8:23 pm to
Ignorant white guy berates and insults a Puerto Rican woman, charged with federal hate crime.

Black Democrat woman nearly kills a 91 year old Hispanic man with a brick and tells him to "Go back to your country", nothing to see here.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35333 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 8:23 pm to
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and I legit believe that she didn't feel safe 


And that's grounds for a FELONY criminal charge?
Posted by themunch
bottom of the list
Member since Jan 2007
71987 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 8:24 pm to
We have become our neighbors.


They did this in Canada and libs said no worries mate.
This post was edited on 7/13/18 at 8:29 pm
Posted by SOKAL
Member since May 2018
4124 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 8:28 pm to
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No, the entire premise of "hate crimes" is what's absurd.



I agree. How do you try this without tapping into the biases and prejudices of the jury?
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
17551 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 8:29 pm to
Absurd
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35333 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 8:33 pm to
quote:

agree. How do you try this without tapping into the biases and prejudices of the jury?


Hate crimes are the very definition of First Amendment violations. You have a situation where the act and mental state are by definition already being punished, and the only thing left is belief/thought.

Motive is also already factored in to proving the mental state and act (actus reus and mens really).

If you are for hate crimes you are categorically against the First Amendment. Period.
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10798 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 8:39 pm to
quote:

So what flags are okay to berate someone for


Ok or legal?
Berating, words are now illegal?
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 8:40 pm to
Thought crime is officially here.

The guy is an a-hole but yelling at someone isn't a crime.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 8:43 pm to
IF anyone is a dumbass it's him for not knowing PRs are US citizens
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115480 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 8:43 pm to
Hopefully, his lawyer will make a constitutional challenge to this bullshite.
Posted by FourThinInches
Member since Apr 2012
1364 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 8:52 pm to
Obama and people like Toddy helped create this PC world... Scary
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36335 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 8:53 pm to
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