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Feds Collect Record Taxes in First Month Under Tax Cut; Run Surplus in January

Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:04 am
Posted by L.A.
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Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:04 am
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(CNSNews.com) - The federal government this January ran a surplus while collecting record total tax revenues for that month of the year, according to the Monthly Treasury Statement released today.

January was the first month under the new tax law that President Donald Trump signed in December.

During January, the Treasury collected approximately $361,038,000,000 in total tax revenues and spent a total of approximately $311,802,000,000 to run a surplus of approximately $49,236,000,000

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Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50167 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:06 am to
Uh oh
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67478 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:06 am to
quote:

a surplus

American taxpayers - yeah the debt goes down a little

Elected asswipes - yeah more money to spend
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14916 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:08 am to
But some of the most respected economics minds on the left said this was impossible.

Are we suppose to believe in the impossible now?
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:10 am to
The tax changes haven't gone into effect on most paychecks.....
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:10 am to
Like I said in the other thread, we had a larger surplus of $51 billion last year.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:11 am to
Quarter end months always have the highest tax revenues and tend to run surpluses while the deficits come in months that don't have those boosted revenue totals. It's good news but it's a bit misleading to think these are true "surpluses" because the government cycles in terms of revenue while spending is fairly constant.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:11 am to
Record REVENUES!!!


Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:16 am to
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Record REVENUES!!!
And like last year, we’ll have another slew of threads about April’s revenue and surplus, as if there aren’t certain important tax deadlines that happen each and every year that cause certain months to have “records.”
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:19 am to
JEEBUS!!!


I’m not talking about the ‘surplus’. But, a RECORD revenue is a RECORD, no?


I’m not even crowing about it. It is just that the lead is being buried.


“We had a record rainfall “


bullshite, it RAINS fairly often!


Ugh
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:19 am to
quote:

And like last year, we’ll have another slew of threads about April’s revenue and surplus, as if there aren’t certain important tax deadlines that happen each and every year that cause certain months to have “records.”


It's funny because I always hear jokes about "liberal math" and then we have threads like this that demonstrate that most people on this forum have no idea how tax collections and budgets work. Not to mention that the tax changes aren't mandatory on paychecks until next month

Ignorance
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:24 am to
quote:

I’m not talking about the ‘surplus’. But, a RECORD revenue is a RECORD, no?
Well it’s not a record, unless they mean a record for January, which is what I think this what they are trying to say with this statement:
quote:

while collecting record total tax revenues for that month of the year
This post was edited on 2/13/18 at 11:28 am
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33838 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:26 am to
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Well it’s not a record, unless they mean a record for January.


What in the title or quote from the OP makes you think they don't mean January?
Posted by BaylorTiger
Member since Nov 2006
2083 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:27 am to
quote:

The tax changes haven't gone into effect on most paychecks.....


Do you have a link for that? It's not the trend I've seen in the industry but that's very anecdotal and I haven't seen any aggregate data.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:28 am to
Soooooo. No withholding on all of those BONUSES?



Ignorance, indeed.
Posted by Razor Dawg
Decatur
Member since Dec 2017
707 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:32 am to
quote:

Well it’s not a record, unless they mean a record for January


It's what the graph clearly states.Not sure that it can be interpreted any other way.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78206 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:34 am to
Tax rates down, tax revenues up. Exactly as I said before receiving a hail of Democrat down votes.

Imagine their shock when they realize that when you incentive economic activity you get more of it . Not that a single Dem will learn the lesson.

Remember - their hero - Dreamy McMompants once said on camera that even if tax revenues increased he would oppose tax rates cuts on principle. When you are a Fundamentalist Progressive, you have to stick to the fundamentals.
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
10836 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:39 am to
quote:

Feds Collect Record Taxes


In a growing economy, this should nearly always be the case. More things get done by people, more money made, more collected

quote:

Run Surplus


This should be the lead.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:40 am to
quote:

Soooooo. No withholding on all of those BONUSES?

Ignorance, indeed.


The collections in January are not uniquely reflective of December employment taxes. Different taxes are collected under different schedules. Short term surpluses aren't an accurate barometer of prior month collections. So yes, ignorance. This isn't partisan stuff. It's a basic understanding of tax collections.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134817 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:41 am to
I assume the Dems will now declare that taxation is bad
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