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re: Federal judge rules that U of Wyoming sorority must allow men claiming to be women to join

Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:35 pm to
Posted by KiwiHead
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:35 pm to
At LSU and most SEC sororities, you just do not go through rush without having recommendations. There are only so many slots each Fall. Legacies get preference then those with the recs of active alumni, then those with what they would call general recs. It was rare that a girl entering rush did not know that they had a guarantee at at least one sorority.
Posted by anc
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:36 pm to
Yep. The issue is that as absurd as this is, the national rules say they accept "men who identify as women."

I hate it for the girls. They did the right thing by trying to protect their sorority. But legally, there is nothing that can be done. They can quit the sorority and let it die at the University of Wyoming or wait this person out and try to rebuild their membership (no one is wanting to join this sorority, so their new members are weaker)

Wyoming has four sororities. They have a three day rush (SEC schools have up to 12 days). Its just not a big deal up there.

Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:37 pm to
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In the meantime all the girls should resign from the sorority and let the guy sit there by himself.


Absolutely
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:38 pm to
What do these people get out of it?

I just don’t understand the thought process.

This is obviously insane, so what does this judge get out of it?

Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:38 pm to
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In the meantime all the girls should resign from the sorority and let the guy sit there by himself.

Absolutely


I suspect this is likely the point/goal of this absurd exercise.
Posted by anc
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:39 pm to
Definitely. I understand how it works. My daughter went through it at an ACC school and we just had friends that finished up at LSU and Ole Miss this weekend.

But we also have a friend that went to Southern Miss. No recommendations, no resume, no prep at all. Decided she was going to go through at the last moment.

Chi Omega, considered one of the best.

It is completely different outside the SEC, southern ACC schools and big Texas schools.
Posted by Geauxldilocks
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:39 pm to
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Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:40 pm to
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The other reason is that I think sororities (and fraternities) are distracting nonsense when students should be focused on school.

Sororities and fraternities sometimes yield better academic results and sometimes worse depending on the culture. In that sense, I don’t think we can make blanket conclusions.

FTR, I was not a participant.
This post was edited on 8/25/25 at 12:41 pm
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:41 pm to
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I suspect this is likely the point/goal of this absurd exercise.


Why do you think that?

If that happens the pervert doesn't get to ogle college girls in their underwear.

That's like thinking that the gays trying to force the baker to bake the cake really wanted him to shut his bakery down rather than bake the cake.

Naw. They want to use the power of the state to say, "You WILL affirm my lifestyle and you will like it."
This post was edited on 8/25/25 at 12:43 pm
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:42 pm to
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I hope they keep this dumb shite up. Its only polarizing normal thinking people to not vote for D's

This is my point. Let’s keep this 90-10 issue alive.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:44 pm to
Him possibly being an ogling pervert doesn’t preclude the likelihood that he’s also someone’s pawn.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13592 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:45 pm to
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Sororities and fraternities sometimes yield better academic results and sometimes worse depending on the culture.


Depending upon how much more developed and sophisticated the cheating system is in any particular Greek organization, sure.

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In that sense, I don’t think we can make blanket conclusions.


Oh, I think we can make some.

Posted by TigerBait1971
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:47 pm to
Looks like I'm going back to school, boys!
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13592 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:47 pm to
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Him possibly being an ogling pervert doesn’t preclude the likelihood that he’s also someone’s pawn.


And again, do you think the gays getting married wanted the baker to shut his bakery down rather than comply, or do you think they wanted to force him to bake the cake?

I think it's obvious that they wanted the latter and if the former had happened the goal would not have been achieved and they would have tried to find another baker to force who wouldn't want to.

Shutting the sorority/bakery down doesn't force acceptance. Which is obviously the goal.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110973 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:50 pm to
Yes, I think there are a lot more people out there with an agenda of ending single sex college organizations than there are with ending operating bakeries.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37623 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:52 pm to
That's what I'm familiar with and qualified it as such. But, I knew folks who sent their sons to Ivy League schools and the Fraternities were like the Sororities down South. Rare that an outsider got into the prestigious fraternities. However, at Cornell. If you were a wrestler, it did not matter....you chose.
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
10220 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:56 pm to
I need more info on this. Because it looks like the judge just ruled that since they are a private organization they can determine their own bylaws which in this case the National Kappas decided to allow a tranny. The local chapter didn't like it so they sued the national organization. This looks like it's a problem with the National Kappa Kappa Gamma Won't define a woman so the judge said "It's not us to the court because it's a private organizations bylaws"

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"Having considered the issues presented (again), we find that the majority of the claims must be dismissed on the grounds that this Court still may not interfere with [the sorority's] contractually valid interpretation of its own Bylaws," writes U.S. District Court Judge Alan Johnson in the final ruling.

"Nothing in the Bylaws or the Standing Rules requires Kappa to narrowly define the words "women" or "woman" to include only those individuals born with a certain set of reproductive organs, particularly when even the dictionary cited by Plaintiffs offers a more expansive definition," Johnson writes. "Nor has Kappa or the Fraternity Council concealed this definition from its members: in fact, it has published and distributed multiple texts clarifying the issue."



The guy was 100% doing this for attention and money though because he is now suing the attorneys that represented the plaintiffs:

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Langford is now suing the lawyers who represented the sorority sister plaintiffs for damages. While she once envisioned "growing old" in Wyoming, she moved out of state this month, citing the stresses of the lawsuit and national attention, as well as a spate of new anti-trans laws passed in Wyoming over the last three years.
This post was edited on 8/25/25 at 1:03 pm
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13592 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:59 pm to
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Yes, I think there are a lot more people out there with an agenda of ending single sex college organizations than there are with ending operating bakeries.


I see.

You think this was an operative against sororities, not an operative in favor of trans rights.

That makes a lot more sense, but I still don't quite buy it.

I think it's a lot more likely that it's a pro-LGBTQ angle rather than an anti-Greek angle.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55609 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 1:00 pm to
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Depending upon how much more developed and sophisticated the cheating system is in any particular Greek organization, sure.

Yeah, this is also a thing.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13592 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 1:02 pm to
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This looks like it's a problem with the National Kappa Kappa Gamma Won't define a woman so the judge said "It's not us to the court because it's a private organizations bylaws"


IF that is all the case, then I agree with the judge.

Private organization, they should be able to do what they want. The girls who don't want to shower with boys will need to find another sorority who wants to keep boys out.
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