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Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:41 pm to Decatur
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The IC needs to know what information was compromised and the FBI needs the evidence for their criminal investigation. Core executive functions.
All 17 of them. And they were not obtainable through other means? You mean they gave trump the only copies??
Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:42 pm to Decatur
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The interview tapes? Are you really comparing that to this? I thought maybe you had something better.
Clearly you haven’t read the ruling. Dude. Just admit you are ok with weaponizing fed agencies against political opponents. This is insane. Trump was impeached for suggesting an investigation. You know. The one based upon the Russian misinformation laptop and a video of Biden making threats.
If you were consistent I could see it. But you aren’t. You are just a fascist.
ETA: citing the DOJ/NARA letter as if it is fact. Yikes.
This post was edited on 9/6/22 at 7:46 pm
Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:43 pm to Vacherie Saint
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oh look. yet another bald faced lie by the Biden administration.
I can totally believe that Biden himself ordered this but at the same time doesn't have knowledge of it.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:45 pm to Decatur
Explain to me again how any secrets are known to have been compromised. Because maybe some new vulnerabilities need to corrected in SCIFs worldwide!
Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:50 pm to Jjdoc
That's not possible. He gave me his word!
Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:58 pm to Decatur
quote:Eat shite and die - hows that?.. DEFINTIELY better
Post better.
FASCIST PIG
Posted on 9/6/22 at 8:03 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
He isn’t a bad guy. I just cannot understand after being showed his arse on the fbi FISA/Russia gate facts why he continues to give the FBI the benefit of the doubt. For any reasonable person that seems insane. He is driven by political ideals and doesn’t care if fascist methods are used. He is a true believer. Means to an end. And if it takes fascism. So be it. It’s really sad.
This post was edited on 9/6/22 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 9/6/22 at 8:08 pm to Jjdoc
Nothing makes sense unless you assume they want to destroy our way of life, our freedoms and the vast wealth of everyday Americans. Trump is the biggest threat to that destruction.
Accept this hypothesis and everything suddenly makes perfect sense. Your serfdom awaits.
Accept this hypothesis and everything suddenly makes perfect sense. Your serfdom awaits.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 8:11 pm to BBONDS25
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Clearly you haven’t read the ruling.
I just skimmed through it but can't tell what precedent you think applies here. Feel free to explain if you want.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 8:13 pm to BBONDS25
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He is driven by political ideals and doesn’t care if fascist methods are used. He is a true believer. Means to an end. And if it takes fascism. So be it. It’s really sad.
Yup. Unfortunately, there are too many in this country that fall into this category.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 8:20 pm to Decatur
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I just skimmed through it but can't tell what precedent you think applies here. Feel free to explain if you want.
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a president’s discretion on what are personal vs. official records is far-reaching and solely his, as is his ability to declassify or destroy records at will,”
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Under the statutory scheme established by the PRA, the decision to segregate personal materials from Presidential records is made by the President, during the President’s term and in his sole discretion,”
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Since the President is completely entrusted with the management and even the disposal of Presidential records during his time in office, it would be difficult for this Court to conclude that Congress intended that he would have less authority to do what he pleases with what he considers to be his personal records.”
Posted on 9/6/22 at 8:24 pm to Diamondawg
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But he learned of it when we did, on the news. Curious, I tell you.
Obama MO
Posted on 9/6/22 at 8:28 pm to BBONDS25
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Under the statutory scheme established by the PRA, the decision to segregate personal materials from Presidential records is made by the President, during the President’s term and in his sole discretion,”
Trump produced the first 15 boxes of records to NARA. That's what kicked this off. That's what NARA had in its possession and gave to the FBI. Many of the documents were marked at the highest levels of classification. Of course the IC is going to have to do a damage assessment and the FBI will have to investigate any evidence of crimes. Wholly and completely different from the Clinton case.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 8:32 pm to Decatur
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Trump produced the first 15 boxes of records to NARA. That's what kicked this off. That's what NARA had in its possession and gave to the FBI. Many of the documents were marked at the highest levels of classification. Of course the IC is going to have to do a damage assessment and the FBI will have to investigate any evidence of crimes. Wholly and completely different from the Clinton case.
So he should have just wiped them. Like with a cloth
Posted on 9/6/22 at 8:32 pm to Decatur
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Trump produced the first 15 boxes of records to NARA. That's what kicked this off
So what? You are ignoring the courts ruling about the presidents plenary powers? So dishonest.
Yes or no. According to the court, does the president have plenary power over anything in his possession?
You know the answer. You still support weaponizing govt agencies against a political enemy. I know you’re smarter than this. It’s ok to say this was a step too far. CNNs attorney and Tarzan’s admitted that for goodness sake. Are you so radicalized you’re further left than that?
This post was edited on 9/6/22 at 8:34 pm
Posted on 9/6/22 at 8:33 pm to BBONDS25
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You are ignoring the courts ruling about the presidents plenary powers?
Which one?
Posted on 9/6/22 at 8:35 pm to Decatur
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Which one?
Holy frick. I listed them. You ignore them. That is fine. You are cool with weaponizing the fed gig against political opponents. Even in opposition to clear precedent. We get it.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 8:35 pm to Decatur
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Since the President is completely entrusted with the management and even the disposal of Presidential records during his time in office, it would be difficult for this Court to conclude that Congress intended that he would have less authority to do what he pleases with what he considers to be his personal records.”
Posted on 9/6/22 at 8:36 pm to BBONDS25
Apply this to these records. If trump called them his. They are his. So says the judge.
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