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re: Federal Communications Commission set to reverse net neutrality rules
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:33 pm to Breesus
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:33 pm to Breesus
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You're OK with a monopoly destroying competition within a market as long as they're open about it?
I'm in favor of transparency. And I'm in favor of competition.
Instead of passing laws trying to control the current government created monopolies, why don't we pass laws that gets rid of the monopolies and makes it easier for competition to move in?
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:33 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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So you agree the internet is a telecom?
Are you asking specifically if the internet is a utility?
I mean this is the real question in all of this.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:35 pm to 50_Tiger
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I know telecom.
Just because yall listen to linus tech tips on the tech board like gospel doesnt make you 3GPP savvy nor know the entire LTE map
I know many people are saying you make garbage arguments, but I think we oughta admit, you kind of post like a tool bag as well.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:37 pm to Breesus
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This crowd of people who argue that new ISPs will just sprout up all over the place have got to be the most ignorant people when it comes to this debate.
Riddle me this.
I am 3 miles from the nearest gas station. My neighborhood is on the edge of the desert, miles from the next neighborhood in any direction other than toward town. Infrastructure would cost a lot to get here, and yet it is here.
I have at least 3 terrestrial options for ISP, and I have used all three… I kept the one that does what I like.
Your neighborhood is different, I get it. You don't have options. I know. Why not figure out WHY some areas have choices and some don't, and change the ones that don't? Why frick everybody else to empower a federal entity instead of working to remove the road blocks in your own area?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:37 pm to bonhoeffer45
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I know many people are saying you make garbage arguments, but I think we oughta admit, you kind of post like a tool bag as well.
Yeah, I'm trying to work on that.
But hey when you are attacked what can you do?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:38 pm to SoulGlo
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SoulGlo
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:39 pm to SoulGlo
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Why not figure out WHY some areas have choices and some don't, and change the ones that don't? Why frick everybody else to empower a federal entity instead of working to remove the road blocks in your own area?
Ding Ding Ding
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:40 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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Well that’s that. The one ISP in my region is free to frick me.
Where do you live? I live in a small city in La. and I have 12 options.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:41 pm to SoulGlo
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Why not figure out WHY some areas have choices and some don't, and change the ones that don't?
Why not keep the policy in place that protects end users and markets from monopoly interference in content until that monopoly doesn't exist anymore?
Why abolish all protections for the market and hope that one day that almost impossible to interrupt monopoly isn't there anymore but until then, oh fricking well.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:42 pm to Aristo
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and I have 12 options.
No. You don't.
Where do you live that you have 12 equally competitive high speed ISP options?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:42 pm to SLafourche07
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Instead of passing laws trying to control the current government created monopolies, why don't we pass laws that gets rid of the monopolies and makes it easier for competition to move in?
If you have the answer for how to cheaply build definition high speed infrastructure that quickly and encompassingly covers a market and can be competitive with the entrenched natural monopolies of any given region, you are wasting away on this message board with a billion dollar business idea.
Fact is the barriers to entry on that scale are incredibly high. You are talking 100’s of millions of dollars for larger regions, expensive ongoing operating costs, and a need to capture significant invested market share to break even over a fairly long term. I agree that there are a lot of state laws and such that make the problems worse, and those should be addressed. And if we get to a place where the broader ISP market begins to exhibit the characteristics of a highly competitive marketplace and not the often monopolistic market space we have today, we probably could get rid of net neutrality. But as is, your suggestion is putting the cart before the horse.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:44 pm to Breesus
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I hate you
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:45 pm to bonhoeffer45
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f you have the answer for how to cheaply build definition high speed infrastructure that quickly and encompassingly covers a market and can be competitive with the entrenched natural monopolies of any given region, you are wasting away on this message board with a billion dollar business idea.
Fact is the barriers to entry on that scale are incredibly high.
only based on current tech.
it's like you idiots think that wireless isnt trying to push hardlines out currently.
where have you been?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:47 pm to CptBengal
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only based on current tech.
Then why not fricking wait until that tech exists to get rid of the protections?
I don't understand.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:48 pm to CptBengal
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only based on current tech.
it's like you idiots think that wireless isnt trying to push hardlines out currently.
where have you been?
It's not like carriers have been buying spectrum out the arse lately
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:49 pm to Aristo
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I live in a small city in La. and I have 12 options.
Cell data and Satellite internet are not viable options.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:49 pm to CptBengal
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nly based on current tech.
it's like you idiots think that wireless isnt trying to push hardlines out currently.
where have you been
Yes because the oligopolistic cell industry and occassional satellite internet company or niche wireless ISP that offers plans that would reach throttle point or the hard cap data limit after a couple days of heavy video watching or internet use, that rarely matches definition high speed, is a viable direct competitor to your often regional monopoly isp/cable company.
These arguments have been made and exposed too many times to revisit again.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:50 pm to Breesus
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Then why not fricking wait until that tech exists to get rid of the protections?
I don't understan
what protections?
Comcast throttled, was sued, lost, and had to make good
BEFORE NN existed.
what was the point of NN?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:50 pm to CptBengal
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only based on current tech. it's like you idiots think that wireless isnt trying to push hardlines out currently. where have you been?
wireless will always still be backboned by hardline
bc hardline connection is better
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:50 pm to Breesus
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Then why not fricking wait until that tech exists to get rid of the protections? I don't understand.
They’ve been told to think a certain way so they are.
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