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re: Fed Judge Draws La Vote Map

Posted on 6/21/22 at 1:03 pm to
Posted by El_chantajista
Lafayette Louisiana
Member since Jan 2020
818 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 1:03 pm to
5th circuit court can over rule her while the process there by stopping the map drawing btch, let it go thru the courts in the mean time the legislatives map that over ridden the commie btch we have for Governor will be used for the election
Posted by Bandit1980
God's Country
Member since Nov 2019
3751 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 1:07 pm to
It will get thrown out again.


Judge Dickhead can have her moment, SCOTUS will shut this down in about 2 seconds.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47615 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 1:13 pm to
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want an Isleno majority district


They’d have to be a majority for that to happen
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23712 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 1:18 pm to
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Racial gerrymandering is illegal and unconstitutional.

That's the point. The state has racial division in housing and residences. Black citizens comprise 32.4% of Louisiana's population. White Republicans in the Legislature have gerrymandered the congressional maps along racial lines to dilute black vote to the point that black citizens can elect no more than one of six U.S. reps. That's 32.4% of the population who can not elect any more than 16% of the representatives.

You are correct, racial gerrymandering is illegal. That's why the judge ruled the way she did.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26332 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 1:21 pm to
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The plaintiffs think it didn't

Does anyone actually think they don’t believe it complies with the VRA? I don’t.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47615 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 1:23 pm to
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black citizens can elect no more than one of six U.S. reps


Because they’re voting for the wrong guy

If they voted for the right guy they could elect all 6
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
6992 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 1:24 pm to
You're complete f****** idiot aren't you... And a disingenuous one at that. The majority of the black population in the entire state lives by your state lives between Baton Rouge and New Orleans, but There is also a large population in the Delta. To draw 2 districts Is to be majority black is Jerry mandering to epic proportions.

Not to mention, if you do this, You're taking the little bit of power that other minority groups have to effect elections away
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 1:24 pm to
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You are correct, racial gerrymandering is illegal but when (D)emocrats do it it's (D)ifferent


Fixed it, no charge.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26332 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 1:25 pm to
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White Republicans in the Legislature have gerrymandered the congressional maps along racial lines to dilute black vote to the point that black citizens can elect no more than one of six U.S. reps

No, but white Republicans have already been forced to gerrymander the map to create a single blue district.

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That's 32.4% of the population who can not elect any more than 16% of the representatives.

Too fricking bad. I bet you don’t feel this way about Republican representation in California or Illinois. It’s not Republicans fault that the black population only votes for black candidates, or that you hold the racist belief that people can only be represented by someone of their same skin color. Likewise, it’s not Republicans fault that the black population is spread out amongst the State’s urban areas such that there is not even a coherent geographic footprint for the one “black” district we have.

I’m sorry that you want to create racist districts whose only commonality is skin color.
This post was edited on 6/21/22 at 1:27 pm
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23712 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 1:48 pm to
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I’m sorry that you want to create racist districts whose only commonality is skin color.

You could either try to understand what is going on in the world or you can just spout off whatever outrage comes into your little head.

What I provided is the reasoning likely used by the judge in making her decision. I understand that you can only look at this from the perspective of a white conservative voter who wants to maximize white conservative representation. To you, drawing the maps so that a white population that comprises only about 68% of the population holds 83% of the representation is good, because it is for you.

Too bad you don't perceive the racial gerrymandering in your favor. That's a sign of intentional ignorance.

Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26332 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 1:53 pm to
I notice that you didn't respond substantively to any point I raised.
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What I provided is the reasoning likely used by the judge in making her decision

I am well aware. She is as wrong as you are.

Districts should be drawn with absolutely zero consideration for any demographic information beyond raw population numbers. They should have a focus on geographic continuity, existing administrative boundaries, and commonality of interest amongst the constituents.

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To you, drawing the maps so that a white population that comprises only about 68% of the population holds 83% of the representation is good, because it is for you.

Once again, there is zero place for any discussion of race whatsoever. I want them geographically coherent with no regard whatsoever to any demographic factor. That way people within administrative communities can elect someone to represent their areas.

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Too bad you don't perceive the racial gerrymandering in your favor.

The only reason that LA's map is currently gerrymandered is because the 2nd District had to be created by snaking it up the river from New Orleans to Northern EBR, excluding most of the areas in between in a way that eliminates ALL commonality of interest for the constituents EXCEPT for the fact that they are mostly black-skinned. There are NO, I repeat NO local issues that impact both someone living in Scotlandville and someone living in New Orleans East.

I'll ask again, why do you hold the racist belief that people can only be properly represented in Congress by someone with their own skin color? We do not have proportional representation in this country, and it is unequivocally NOT required by the Voting Rights Act.

Judge Dick, as usual on constitutional or tangentially political issues, is wrong and will be overruled.
This post was edited on 6/21/22 at 1:58 pm
Posted by Tiger on the Rag
Cattle Gap Egypt
Member since Jan 2018
6834 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 1:56 pm to
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the black vote map.



They just keep dividing us more and more. Reverse racism
Posted by Bandit1980
God's Country
Member since Nov 2019
3751 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 2:04 pm to
This will get shot down like Ol' Potatus falling off of a bike.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19347 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 2:43 pm to
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To you, drawing the maps so that a white population that comprises only about 68% of the population holds 83% of the representation is good, because it is for you.

In what world can a white person only be represented by a white politician and a black person by a black politician? It's patently absurd. Section 2 of the VRA even says that nothing in the act is to be construed as requiring proportional representation by race, etc...
Posted by back9Tiger
Mandeville, LA.
Member since Nov 2005
14144 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 2:45 pm to
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to dilute black vote to the point that black citizens can elect no more than one of six U.S. reps.



Good, because they frick up everything they touch.
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