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re: FCC Chairman Ajit Pai: Why He's Rejecting Net Neutrality

Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:30 pm to
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41026 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:30 pm to
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I wish they would change the law. I'd much much rather have net neturality without title 2 classification. Unfortunately, that isn't currently possible.


Wait. It's not possible to change a law?
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53399 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

Google is already moving in that direction.



You....literally didn't respond to anything that I said.



Your own cited article says they are having issues already with being constrained by limitations of how much data they can put in frequencies, and there is a BIG arse difference between the statement that the service being available at ALL vs it being the primary.

You

Cannot

Put

That

Much

Data

In

The

Air

In

A

WAN

On

A

Wide

Scale

And again....latency issues are still there.

Most users won't care, but there are many who will.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41026 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:31 pm to
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I think obamacare is an abomination.



Huh. Your style of arguing is very similar. (Did not mean that question as an offense, but your points are very similar in reasoning.)
Posted by culsutiger
Member since Apr 2012
652 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:32 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/3/18 at 11:21 pm
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:32 pm to
I didn’t see it. I will be happy to answer if you repost and I see it.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298561 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:32 pm to
You're sounding like a flat earther. Some wireless options require minimal ifrastucture upgrades

LINK

5-10 years you'll most likely have wireless internet to your home
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:33 pm to
Free market? In many areas one or two companies own all the physical infrastructure and service the entire area. You feel the ISPs and cable companies are providing a high level of service now? If so, you have very low expectations as a consumer. These companies are already among the worst of the worst in terms of value and customer service.
You want them to assign dollar value to specific 0s and 1s?


Not very bright.
Posted by culsutiger
Member since Apr 2012
652 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:33 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/3/18 at 11:22 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298561 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:33 pm to
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You....literally didn't respond to anything that I said.


Flat earthier

LINK
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:34 pm to
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You have no other way to power home except your local power grid? Generators and solar panels just don’t exist


Just for the record since you guys think this is a gotcha. Those in fact are competitors

What are the cost of producing electricity on the grid to climb to unreasonable levels then all of the alternatives would be used at a greater level

Gas is also an alternative to the grid which is why some people have gas heat instead of electric heat and gas ovens instead of electric ovens.

The fact I can provide you a widget for a price you are willing to pay over my competitors widget doesn't make them not my competitor

How do you people not get this?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:34 pm to
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Some wireless options require minimal ifrastucture upgrades


sighhhhh, wireless capabilities still has limitations compared to a fixed wired connection

quote:

5-10 years you'll most likely have wireless internet to your home


why do that when the QoS with a wired connection is better?
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 12:35 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298561 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:34 pm to
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Sure it is, but it hasn't happened. What part of the FCC has to operate within the law as it exists do you not get?


Change the law. The fricker was written in the 30s
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:35 pm to
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I didn’t see it. I will be happy to answer if you repost and I see it

Okay. Is a Kia a competitor to a BMW? How about a motorcycle? How about a moped?
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41026 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:35 pm to
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No they don't. What is going on now is an FCC ruling within the current regulatory framework passed by Congress.

Congress can change that framework whenever they please. They don't need the FCC to damn thing before they can change the law.


Sorry, poor wording. They would have to undo the re-classification. Better?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298561 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

why do that when the QoS with a wired connection is better?


It will not be better in a few years

Wireless is in your future. Get used to it
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53399 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

Your own cited article says they are having issues already with being constrained by limitations of how much data they can put in frequencies, and there is a BIG arse difference between the statement that the service being available at ALL vs it being the primary.



I flat out SAID the technology is there in an earlier post.


The part where you are wrong is the statement that it will ever be the primary.

Or at least inside of the 50 year technology window.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45911 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:37 pm to
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why do that when the QoS with a wired connection is better?


Because the vast majority (I'd guess 95%) don't have the latency and QoS requirements us ubergeeks do.

Which is going to hurt the wired ISPs and force them to offer better and better service.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:37 pm to
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Or at least inside of the 50 year technology window

ROFLMAO

Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41026 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:37 pm to
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Sure it is, but it hasn't happened. What part of the FCC has to operate within the law as it exists do you not get?


Probably somewhere around the part that you aren't getting that this entire thread is about trying to change the law/classifications

I mean this is basically a giant discussion on ways to fix something that you say is currently not possible to do.
quote:

I wish they would change the law. I'd much much rather have net neturality without title 2 classification. Unfortunately, that isn't currently possible.
Posted by culsutiger
Member since Apr 2012
652 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:37 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/3/18 at 11:22 pm
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