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re: FCC Chairman Ajit Pai: Why He's Rejecting Net Neutrality

Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:17 pm to
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:17 pm to
Wat question?

We both know the answer. You just keep ignoring that the factual scenario between internet service and grid power at my house is functionally the same.

Explain why one shouldn’t be regulated by the other should.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53398 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:17 pm to
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That's just not true. There was a bill proposed in 2014 to achieve just this. The FCC tried multiple times as well on their end. The ISPs were even on board with them. I'm not meaning this as a party issue, but the reason it did not pass in 2014 was because Dems wanted it to be title II. period.


I didn't say there was NEVER a push.


Where is that bill now? Its the same no nothing bullshite as with Obamacare. No solutions offered.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298561 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:17 pm to
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You come out against "Net Neutrality" and you get labeled as against an open and free internet, when in actuality, you are against a stupid arse law that was very poorly written, and one that can be achieved through other means that would leave out the worst parts of the law as it is currently written.


Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:17 pm to
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5G coming soon will be 40-50x the speed of 4G


and will still have limitations wired connections don't. From stability of connections to encryption

quote:

Soon all internet will be wireless


This might be one of the dumbest things ive ever read. Imagine server farm, switches and routers all wireless
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45911 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:17 pm to
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If you want to unwind NN, you have to find something else that will do that.



From GoCrazyAuburn:

quote:

That's just not true. There was a bill proposed in 2014 to achieve just this. The FCC tried multiple times as well on their end. The ISPs were even on board with them. I'm not meaning this as a party issue, but the reason it did not pass in 2014 was because Dems wanted it to be title II. period.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45911 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:18 pm to
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From stability of connections to encryption


Wut?
Posted by culsutiger
Member since Apr 2012
652 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:19 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/3/18 at 11:20 pm
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:19 pm to
The Republican bill took some steps, but it was a far cry from unwind all of the local and state regulations that destroy the free market.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41026 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:20 pm to
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Where is that bill now? Its the same no nothing bullshite as with Obamacare. No solutions offered.


Probably in line behind removing the current law I would guess
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:20 pm to
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5G coming soon will be 40-50x the speed of 4G

Soon all internet will be wireless


Man Roger, I agree with you on a lot of things, but this is just incorrect.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53398 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:20 pm to
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All of them. Which is the point.



Then you are an ignorant dumbass because, if not those specific events, then similar ones by the same names persisted until Title 2 was bludgeoned in.


Which would be common sense considering that it wasn't added in a vacuum.
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 12:21 pm
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:20 pm to
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Wut?


not everyone uses the strongest encryption on there networks at home
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45911 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

Wat question?


Is there another service in your area that gives you access to the same product as your "high speed cable" line?

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298561 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

This might be one of the dumbest things ive ever read. Imagine server farm, switches and routers all wireless



Are you saying on the consumer side this will not happen?

LINK

Technology is already here, Flinstone
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298561 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:22 pm to
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Man Roger, I agree with you on a lot of things, but this is just incorrect.


Such as?
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53398 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:22 pm to
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Probably in line behind removing the current law I would guess


Based on what?


The chairmen explicitly saying we don't need it?

Or is it one of those "we have to pass it to see whats in it " kind of things?
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:22 pm to
No. I cannot buy a service that is the equivalent of my local ISP.

I can achieve much more similarity to “grid power” through solar panels and generators than I can achieve similarity to that service through satellite internet.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45911 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:23 pm to
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Then you are an ignorant dumbass because, if not those specific events, then similar ones by the same names persisted until Title 2 was bludgeoned in.



Please list the issues that were not resolved until Title II happened.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:23 pm to
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Are you saying on the consumer side this will not happen? LINK Technology is already here, Flinstone


You said all internet

even then a wireless solution isn't as good as a fixed wired one.

Just a basic set up of your home network using wired and wireless devices will tell you that.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45911 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

not everyone uses the strongest encryption on there networks at home


Ya, but what does that have to do with issues with 5G?
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