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re: Fani wins

Posted on 3/17/24 at 7:01 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 7:01 am to
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This opinion?


Yes

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One final observation can be gleaned from a careful study of our appellate decisions applying this standard: the remedy can vary. Unlike an actual conflict, the finding of an appearance of impropriety does not automatically demand disqualification. Our Supreme Court has previously analyzed disqualification under an appearance standard in a civil case using a continuum, recognizing that disqualification is not always the appropriate outcome:

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At one end of the scale where disqualification is always justified and indeed mandated, even when balanced against a client’s right to an attorney of choice, is the appearance of impropriety coupled with a conflict of interest or jeopardy to a client’s confidences. In these instances, it is clear that the disqualification is necessary for the protection of the client. Somewhere in the middle of the continuum is the appearance of impropriety based on conduct on the part of the attorney. As discussed above, this generally has been found insufficient to outweigh the client’s interest in counsel of choice. This is probably so because absent danger to the client, the nebulous interest of the public at large in the propriety of the Bar is not weighty enough to justify disqualification. Finally, at the opposite end of the continuum is the appearance of impropriety based not on conduct but on status alone. This is an insufficient ground for disqualification.


Blumenfeld v. Borenstein, 247 Ga. 406, 409-10 (1981); Stinson v. State, 210 Ga. App. 570, 571 (1993) (applying Blumenfield to criminal defense counsel). The Supreme Court further noted that disqualification due to an appearance of impropriety should rarely occur where there is no danger that the actual trial of the case will be tainted. Blumenfeld, 247 Ga. at 407-08; see also Board of Education v. Nyquist, 590 F2d 1241, 1247 (2nd Cir. 1979) (“when there is no claim that the trial will be tainted, appearance of impropriety is simply too slender a reed on which to rest a disqualification order except in the rarest cases”). Similarly, in Billings v. State, 212 Ga. App. 125, 129 (1994), although the Court of Appeals found the existence of an appearance of impropriety, it noted that the appearance could be cured through screening the affected prosecutor from participation or discussion of the affected case. See also Head, 253 Ga. App. at 758 (“Moreover, to insure that no conflict of interest or the appearance of one might develop, the district attorney took the prudent step of ordering the investigator to take no part in the investigation or prosecution of the case.”). These cases indicate that a trial court can consider alternative solutions to cure the appearance of impropriety.

Nor would the finding of an appearance of impropriety on the part of the District Attorney herself, in contrast to an actual conflict, necessarily result in the disqualification of the entire Fulton County District Attorney’s Office. The district attorney in McLaughlin was “absolutely disqualified” due to a personal interest in the prosecution. McLaughlin v. Payne, 295 Ga. 609, 614 (2014). As a result, assistant district attorneys appointed by the district attorney lacked any authority to proceed. Id. at 613. McLaughlin did not address an appearance standard and made a point to limit the total disqualification to instances of “absolute disqualification.” When the appearance of a conflict exists, only the affected prosecutor, be they elected or appointed, is affected. Head, 253 Ga. App. at 758 (“the individual prosecutor who has the conflict [based on at least the appearance of impropriety] may be disqualified from participation in the case, but not all the other prosecutors who work with him”); Frazier v. State, 257 Ga. 690, 694 (1987) (distinguishing Davenport, 157 Ga. App. 704, an appearance of impropriety case, by noting that the district attorney’s disqualification did not require disqualification of the entire office).


Why didn't techno frog post that section?
This post was edited on 3/17/24 at 7:07 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 7:05 am to
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People rebut your arguments here all the time




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and when that happens your go to response is to accuse the board of being “emotional”.

If someone adequately "rebuts" an argument, I don't call them emotional. I was going back and forth with plenty of others ITT without calling them emotional. I didn't even call out all of the emotional responses for being emotional (would take too long).

When you have a movement with a huge population largely motivated by emotion (specifically fear and/or anger), it's going to bleed out in their "arguments" pretty clearly.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 7:49 am to
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The Supreme Court further noted that disqualification due to an appearance of impropriety should rarely occur where there is no danger that the actual trial of the case will be tainted.


Ignore this and thanks.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 7:56 am to
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Ignore this and thanks.

How is the relationship of Fanni and Wade tainting the potential trial of this case?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 8:03 am to
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in the Honors College and graduated summa cum laude without really trying hard
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 8:04 am to
Also probably about 125k of my posts were during that time, and another 150k or so during law school
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 8:05 am to
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125k of my posts were during that time, and another 150k or so during law school



Imagine hiring you as a lawyer knowing this

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 8:06 am to
Law school is pretty worthless. They only make it 3 years to justify the huge salaries of the professors and admin.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 8:07 am to
You're nothing if not predictable.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 8:08 am to
You used the wrong time for that attempted gotcha.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 8:09 am to
Of course
Posted by Houag80
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 8:11 am to
Mr SFP, what are your qualifications and why should we hire you?

"I shiteposted over 250,000 times on TD attempting to educate my lessors and the other assorted plebes and retards that frequent the site."

Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 8:14 am to
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appearance of impropriety does not automatically demand disqualification
In fairness, there was a bit more than "appearance" here. Christsakes, with 1/3rd of Bradley's contract money going to Wade, Fani brought on him as her taint team lead when the poor sot had no clue as to what even constituted privilege.

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When the appearance of a conflict exists, only the affected prosecutor, be they elected or appointed, is affected. Head, 253 Ga. App. at 758 (“the individual prosecutor who has the conflict [based on at least the appearance of impropriety] may be disqualified from participation in the case, but not all the other prosecutors who work with him
That presumes "the other prosecutors" are not also involved. In this instance, two prosecutors were involved.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 8:15 am to
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Fani brought on him as her taint team lead

Well that wasn't some lucrative contract and, IIRC, was well before the Trump prosecution.

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That presumes "the other prosecutors" are not also involved. In this instance, two prosecutors were involved.

Which is why they were each given the option to remove the appearance of impropriety. That's why the ruling gave that option.

Once either is gone, the issue is cured.
This post was edited on 3/17/24 at 8:16 am
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 8:18 am to
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"I shiteposted over 250,000 times on TD attempting to educate my lessors and the other assorted plebes and retards that frequent the site."


But it was all during my law school!!
And now im almost at 1mil posts
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 8:28 am to
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Also probably about 125k of my posts were during that time, and another 150k or so during law school
Yeah well, you were taking all that pre-law fluff. You left all the Quantum Chemistry, Biochem, and Statistical Thermodynamics courses for the other poor gits.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 8:38 am to
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They only make it 3 years to justify the huge salaries of the professors and admin.
Frank Abagnale brought that home. He just skipped it altogether and went straight to the Bar Exam.
Posted by Original Bayou Boy
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 8:39 am to
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When you have a movement with a huge population largely motivated by emotion (specifically fear and/or anger), it's going to bleed out in their "arguments" pretty clearly.


Whoever gets emotional FIRST in an argument loses, almost every single time. It's why a good interrogator, who is a professional and not emotionally connected to the event, can use the subject's emotions to gain a confession.

That said, TD is for opinions and those opinions in many instances are simply emotive reactions to events. Separating what is "Right or Wrong" from what is "Legal or Not" are two different standards that people tend to conflate.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 8:42 am to
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Frank Abagnale brought that home. He just skipped it altogether and went straight to the Bar Exam.

I've said for years on here a person with a 120+ IQ could study bar bri for a semester with minimal instruction (with AI and Youtube today you don't even need that) and pass the bar and be better than a huge chunk of lawyers (given the IQ advantage)
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 8:53 am to
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Well that wasn't some lucrative contract and, IIRC, was well before the Trump prosecution.
It's all water from the same sewer.
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Which is why they were each given the option to remove the appearance of impropriety.
There is the "appearance" presumption again.

Which raises a separate question. Who would have put the Fani Bar Complaint together? Obviously not Judge Scott"Appearance"McAfee.
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