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re: Family, Friends Of Dead Home Invaders Say “They Didn’t Deserve To Get Killed.”

Posted on 5/6/14 at 9:59 am to
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36132 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 9:59 am to
quote:

“Justice was served,” said Robert Robinson.


I don't think this idiot knows what justice is.

Just because the killing was justified doesn't mean justice was served. Some people who reasonably thought their lives were in danger used deadly and legal force to defend themselves and two boys are now dead and the folks who defended themselves are alive. While that is far preferable to the situation where the two boys are alive and the innocent folks in their home are dead - it isn't "justice". Justice would involve a judge and jury.


This post was edited on 5/6/14 at 10:01 am
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 10:10 am to
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I disagree, it should absolutely be a capital offense, but the guy who killed these kids was a psycho scumbag and deserves the charge he got,


If the cops had caught them you think they deserved the needle?

No, but at the same time in this situation, you never know when they are armed, or when they are a threat to your life.

Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
6344 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 6:27 pm to
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Home invasion shouldn't be a capital offense.
I disagree 5064%
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
6344 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 6:29 pm to
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I wouldnt shoot to kill unless my life was in danger.
By the time you are 100% certain, you'll be dead.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 6:35 pm to
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Nothing tragic about a criminal thug getting their career cut short.



Cause of death...a fatal error in the victim selection process.
Posted by GRITS79
Tiger Stadium
Member since Feb 2014
1396 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 6:49 pm to


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The widow in the home had been burgled twice before, and the news article states that fingerprints from one of the deceased burglars was matched to one of the previous break-ins. They were killed as they terrorized an elderly woman, yet again.

It’s sad that these young men were predators. It’s sad that they grew up in a sub-culture that feels it is okay to steal from others.

It is very sad that his sisters have to bury their brother.

But all of that was very preventable. These young men made the conscious decision to become criminals. They made the conscious decision to endanger and terrorize the lives of law-abiding citizens by breaking into occupied dwellings.



How many times should you allow your home to be broken into before you have the right to shoot the invaders? 2? 5? 15?

They have one chance to enter my house, with me in it, without getting shot. The only way they get a second chance is if I miss the first time.

Home invasions seem to be happening more and more often. Should the elderly widow just sit back and keep letting them take her shite? No. It sucks for everyone involved.

I hate that lives were lost, but don't prey on elderly women living alone and repeatedly break into their homes. This wasn't an unjustified shooting, in my opinion.

Someone comes into my house, and they're getting shot. That's all there is to it. I have a CC permit and my gun is always on me. You come in my house, you're getting shot. You try to rob me at a gas station, you're getting shot. If you try to rob me / break into my house, and I pull my gun fast enough, you're getting shot.

quote:

If they'd been arrested they wouldn't have been killed. I mean, don't break in and you don't run that risk, but I have a hard time feeling upset at family and friends of dead minors.



I'm not upset at the friends and family of the deceased. But, her house had been broken into twice before. At what point do you give up on the police "arresting" someone and defend your own shite? I may feel a little bad if their DNA didn't match DNA from previous break ins.

Again, prayers to all involved. No one, even the shooter, feels good in situations that end like this.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21770 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 6:58 pm to
If I'm the parent of one of those kids, then I'd be almost totally riddled with guilt for my failures as a parent. I say almost because a small part of me would be so angry at my child for making such a terrible choice and taking such a huge risk with his life.

I'd be apologizing to the home owners for my kid putting them in that terrible situation where they felt the need to defend themselves with deadly force.

That's just me. Not everyone takes responsibility seriously.
This post was edited on 5/6/14 at 6:59 pm
Posted by GRITS79
Tiger Stadium
Member since Feb 2014
1396 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 7:12 pm to
My parents are the same exact way.

My parents taught me and my brothers from a very young age that if you do shite like that, the consequences are on you.

Parents now are more concerned that someone else may correct their child. The whole "don't talk to my child like that" or I will come to the school, your house, etc is a big part of the problem now. I worked on high schools for years and I saw it every day.

When we were kids, everyone in the neighborhood had permission to whip our arse if we were bad.

Don't get me wrong, my parents would hate to have to bury one of my brothers, but they would not refuse to admit fault. They have a shotgun behind every door in their house. If someone breaks in their house, they will get lit up. They believe in defending your home, family, and property.

And I promise you that my .380 wouldn't do near the damage to an invader that my mom's double barrel 12 gauge would do. She wouldn't hesitate before using it.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127401 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 7:50 pm to
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Justice would involve a judge and jury.


Wrong. But considering the poster not surprising.

Justice can be administered many ways. And this is one way. The burglars chose their form of punishment.
Posted by GRITS79
Tiger Stadium
Member since Feb 2014
1396 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 7:53 pm to
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Justice can be administered many ways. And this is one way. The burglars chose their form of punishment.



Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
70096 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 8:03 pm to
Posted by GRITS79
Tiger Stadium
Member since Feb 2014
1396 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 8:13 pm to


You seem like good people. That's jmo, of course.


I can understand people not wanting kids to get shot. But, when you invade an elderly widow's home, more than once, you don't deserve to live, and you aren't a kid any more.
This post was edited on 5/6/14 at 8:14 pm
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
36193 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 8:31 pm to
"Deserve" is a complicated word. The kid put lives at risk and played a very dangerous game. If anyone deserved to die it was certainly him because he was the one who created the situation. He deserved the consequences of however it played out. "Deserve to get killed" is unfair/emotional wording that makes no sense.
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
11085 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 8:39 pm to
Some of yall won't get very far with your wait and see approach to this. The home owner facing a break in doesn't have to make the judgment call if they fear for their life.

This thought process isn't going to happen:

"Gee, someone just broke in to my house, let me take a moment and see if they plan on just robbing me and leaving nicely or if they intend to do me harm. Maybe I don't actually have to be this scared"


Of course in some cases, like the crazy fricker in Minnesota, there's evidence that you were just hunting in a high fence with the door open and a big ole pile of corn right inside. That's entirely different than your average middle of the night break in.
This post was edited on 5/6/14 at 8:40 pm
Posted by tysonslefthook
Near Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2014
1218 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 9:02 pm to
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If I'm the parent of one of those kids, then I'd be almost totally riddled with guilt for my failures as a parent. I say almost because a small part of me would be so angry at my child for making such a terrible choice and taking such a huge risk with his life.

I'd be apologizing to the home owners for my kid putting them in that terrible situation where they felt the need to defend themselves with deadly force.

That's just me. Not everyone takes responsibility seriously.


If I were shot and killed during an attempted burglary, my dad would be on camera feeling guilty as hell, apologizing to the homeowner and repeating the words "I'm sorry, I raised him better than that. I can't understand why he did it." He'd still mourn me, miss me and love me. But he would in no form or fashion try to justify what I did.
Posted by GRITS79
Tiger Stadium
Member since Feb 2014
1396 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 9:27 pm to
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Some of yall won't get very far with your wait and see approach to this. The home owner facing a break in doesn't have to make the judgment call if they fear for their life.



Exactly. "I felt that my/my families life was in danger" is all you need. Don't show remorse, stick to your story, and ask for a lawyer. If you fear for your life, at least in LA, you can lay their arse out as long as it's justified.


quote:

If I were shot and killed during an attempted burglary, my dad would be on camera feeling guilty as hell, apologizing to the homeowner and repeating the words "I'm sorry, I raised him better than that. I can't understand why he did it." He'd still mourn me, miss me and love me. But he would in no form or fashion try to justify what I did.



Your dad sounds like my dad. You have a good father, who was apparently present during your childhood.

There is no way that the bleeding heart, "OMG!!! Take erryones guns!!!!" Liberals can say that the homeowner was wrong. No way.

I'll say it again....invade my home and I will shoot you. Simple as that. It is my constitutional right to bear arms. And it is my right as a law-abiding citizen of the state of Louisiana to shoot your sorry arse with my legally registered gun if you threaten my life.
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 9:28 pm to
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Home invasion shouldn't be a capital offense.
Well, yeah, but if you make any human or animal feel threatened, then bad stuff is likely to happen. Therefore, you probably shouldn't go around doing that.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 10:59 pm to
i say put down the friends and family as well. If one of my friends or family was dumb enough to be a big piece of shite that broke into a home then i wouldn't shed a tear if they were shot.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
70096 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 11:01 pm to
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heartbreakTiger


And then we should process those poors into food for other poors.

Good to see you over here
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
22781 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 11:05 pm to
They did deserve it (just not at the hands of the government).

Hope grams gets reimbursed for the brass. shite ain't cheap.
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