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re: Fact Checkers accidentally confirm that Cali bill SB-145 decriminalizes some pedophilia

Posted on 10/19/22 at 7:50 am to
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 7:50 am to
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That’s not pedophilia.


true, but it's still creepy
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 7:55 am to
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true, but it's still creepy


Very much so.
Posted by oogabooga68
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 8:03 am to
You seem kinda new here.....

The timing of your arrival and specifically to this particular thread is .....odd.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 8:05 am to
Im not the one tryong to justify this cause in acient rome 14yrs got married

You make up for half the posts in here.

Mwlting and its weird
Posted by oogabooga68
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 8:19 am to
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You make up for half the posts in here.


Some might use the word "obsessed".....
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 8:23 am to
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Im not the one tryong to justify this cause in acient rome 14yrs got married


I haven’t justified a single thing. In fact, just the opposite. Calling one action worse than another isn’t justification.

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You make up for half the posts in here.


That’s because I’m having to respond to about a dozen creepy arse weirdos who believe a 50 year old molesting a 4 year old is the same as a teenager sleeping with a 24 year old.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 8:24 am to
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You seem kinda new here.....


I’ve been posting on this board since 2012. You’ve been registered on the whole website since 2018.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 8:27 am to
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You seem kinda new here.....


Tuscaloosa was once top 5 TDS enraged postsers
Was just awful

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"obsessed"


Definitely. Its reaching creeper status
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 8:36 am to
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Tuscaloosa was once top 5 TDS enraged postsers Was just awful


Not remotely true. In fact, I started a thread following his first debate to note how well he did and was laughed at. I questioned his campaigning methods at the time, because I didn’t think they’d work. But I don’t believe I ever insulted him, and certainly was not anywhere near “TDS” status. Was full blown MAGA by 2018.
This post was edited on 10/19/22 at 8:37 am
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 8:37 am to
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Not remotely true


Fine top 10

You were really just awful for a long time
Posted by Havoc
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 9:49 am to
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quote:a 50 year old molesting a 4 year old quote:

Havoc
Checks out. Did I do that right?

No because i wasn’t advocating for that.

Idiot.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 11:59 am to
Throughout these 7 pages of debate over what is/isn't pedophilia, has anyone corrected the OP over what this bill is actually doing?

Nothing has been decriminalized.

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The bill prevents young adults engaging in non-vaginal sex with a minor within 10 years of their age from being automatically added to the sex offender registry, and allows a state judge to make that decision instead.

California judges previously only had discretion over registering individuals as sex offenders if they have engaged in vaginal intercourse with a minor over 14 years old and within a 10-year age range.

Sex offender registration for those engaging in non-vaginal intercourse was automatic.

The bill extends the same discretion for state judges over sex offender registration for certain young adults who have engaged in voluntary vaginal or non-vaginal sex with certain minors.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 12:05 pm to
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and a lot of them were well-meaning bandwagon hoppers


These are the dumbest humans in existence right now.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
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Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:45 am to
(1) From what I have seen, this legislation does not "decriminalize" anything. It just makes some changes in what offenses and offenders will go onto the Registry, and how long they will stay there.

(2) Some posters seem to be struggling with the distinction between "consent de facto" and "consent de jure." A teen can obviously consent de facto. It is equally obvious that a pre-pubescent child should NEVER be allowed to provide consent de jure.

The question is not even WHETHER a teen should be allowed to consent de jure (see the Romeo/Juliet laws in almost every American jurisdiction), but rather WHEN a teen's consent de facto will also constitute consent de jure. The posters asserting that "a teen can never consent" just have no understanding whatsoever of the law.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
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Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:47 am to
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Throughout these 7 pages of debate over what is/isn't pedophilia, has anyone corrected the OP over what this bill is actually doing?
An online lynch mob seldom cares whether it is addressing the actual issue.

Posted by Thorny
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Member since May 2008
2267 posts
Posted on 10/20/22 at 12:43 pm to
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Every political party wants morals pushed on the populace.


That's because at it's base, all of law is a list of morals that a society agrees to enforce.

Even actions we pretty much all Americans agree should be restricted (murder, rape, battery) have been, at least in certain circumstances, considered moral and thus legal in some society in human history.

The hard part in this country now is that the sources of our values, ethics, and morality are starting to diverge greatly.
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