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re: Fact Checkers accidentally confirm that Cali bill SB-145 decriminalizes some pedophilia

Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:41 pm to
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:41 pm to
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Additionally you shrugging off a 14 yr old with a 24 yr old is disgusting.


When did I do that? You’re projecting. However, I will defend my stance that having sex with a prepubescent child is way worse. If you disagree, I’m not the sicko in the conversation. Sorry.
This post was edited on 10/18/22 at 8:42 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:42 pm to
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So you would be ok with a 24 year old guy having sex with your 14 year old daughter?


Jesus, frick man. . .literally nobody is suggesting that.

He is accurate in his quibble

My point is it WAS quibbling.
This post was edited on 10/18/22 at 8:43 pm
Posted by LemmyLives
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:43 pm to
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Age of consent being 16 in a bunch of states is crazy enough as-is.


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LINK
Look at that chart. I know it is from 2015, but that's OK, because a 15 year old from 2015 is now a 22 year old. There is a reason so many Mexican illegals (in reality, it happens a lot in Honduras, El Salvador, etc.) don't understand why they get arrested for banging a 14 year old. They grew up in an era where 12 year olds were fair game.

Mexico had an age of consent, on average, of 12 years old until 2012
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Mexico raised its age for sexual consent from 12 to 15 in 2012
AP Fact Check

Posted by TidenUP
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:43 pm to
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Seems odd to pick this hill to die on. Both situations are morally reprehensible. A 24 year old manipulating a 14 year old who happened to be developed physically is very predatory.



Tuscaloosa is arguing the specific language in the OP. Specific terms can make laws very ambiguous in courts. See the difference in "shall not" vs "should not".

I don't think he's voicing an opinion as to whether either is acceptable.
Posted by NPComb
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:44 pm to
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If you believe a grown man putting his penis inside of a


Stop right there. Anything other than a consenting adult then the logical next step should be mandatory chemical castration.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:45 pm to
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Tuscaloosa is arguing the specific language in the OP. Specific terms can make laws very ambiguous in courts. See the difference in "shall not" vs "should not".

I don't think he's voicing an opinion as to whether either is acceptable.


Bingo. Words mean things. And when that changes, we remove ourselves (and our children) from that protection.
Posted by rattlebucket
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:45 pm to
Bruh you think it's different. A 14 yr old is a child. Same sentence. Death
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:47 pm to
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Bruh you think it's different. A 14 yr old is a child. Same sentence. Death


It is different.

If you guys don’t agree that having sex with children who haven’t hit puberty yet is far more reprehensible than having sex with a teenager, we don’t have anything left to discuss.
Posted by Diamondawg
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:53 pm to
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I'm talking about the "you can't legislate morality" crowd, and there's a high concentration of them in the libertarian circles.
They also believe you leave me alone and I leave you alone. You mess with my 14 y/o
daughter (I don't have one but I have a 6 year old granddaughter) I will kill you if her dad doesn't get to you first.
Posted by rattlebucket
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:58 pm to
Yeah we dont. A 14 yr old is still a child sicko. Its clear where you and your ilk stand
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:59 pm to
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Yeah we dont. A 14 yr old is still a child sicko. Its clear where you and your ilk stand


Wow. To be clear, you believe a 24 having sex with a 4 year old is the same as a 24 year old having sex with a 14 year old?

Is that right?
This post was edited on 10/18/22 at 9:08 pm
Posted by rattlebucket
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:07 pm to
Both offenders should face capital punishment. You feel differently
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:10 pm to
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Both offenders should face capital punishment. You feel differently


Yes, I do feel differently.

I don’t think a 50 year old who molests a 5 year old should have the opportunity to share the same label or punishment as a 21 year old sleeping with a 15 year old. Sorry.
Posted by Hurricane Mike
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:12 pm to
Dims are some weird arse people
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:12 pm to
You all fell for it hook line and sinker. Tuscaloosa, in typical leftist fashion, argued semantics and parsed language for 3 pages with you without ever having to address the substance of a statute and defend any position at all.

Kudos.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:14 pm to
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You all fell for it hook line and sinker. Tuscaloosa, in typical leftist fashion, argued semantics and parsed language for 3 pages with you without ever having to address the substance of a statute and defend any position at all.

Kudos.


You’re missing the boat entirely by not realizing lumping all of the above into one category is exactly what groomers want, and exactly why every psychologist, sociologist, and lawmaker who’s ever existed has clearly distinguished between the two categories.
Posted by rattlebucket
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:18 pm to
You think its not pedophilia in the instance where a 24 yr old man and a 14 yr old child fornicate. You have a depraved mind.
Posted by You_R_Here
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:18 pm to
Quit trying to normalize discussing the nuances of legalese regarding sexually exploiting minors for the gratification of perverted adults.


Repulsive.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:20 pm to
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You think its not pedophilia in the instance where a 24 yr old man and a 14 yr old child fornicate. You have a depraved mind.


That’s because it’s not. Words mean things. I’m sorry you don’t like that. That doesn’t mean I think it’s okay or should be accepted. It should be illegal and the punishment should be harsh. But it is not pedophilia.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:20 pm to
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Quit trying to normalize discussing the nuances of legalese regarding sexually exploiting minors for the gratification of perverted adults.

Repulsive.


Hey look, another person really upset that I think a 50 year old molesting a 4 year old is different than a 21 year old sleeping with a 15 year old.

Neat.
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