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re: Explain how the ‘Deep State’ was formed?

Posted on 4/15/18 at 5:44 pm to
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
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Posted on 4/15/18 at 5:44 pm to
Knights Templar...it's their fault
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 4/15/18 at 5:46 pm to
The Deep State is the unelected drones who depend up the government for their wellbeing. They resist any and all who want a smaller more efficient government that will damage their gravy train.

^^^^^
This
Had a conversation with an older wise man a few years ago.
I said term limits is the answer.
He said that won’t work either.
It’s the life long beaurocrats that are controlling our government.
i.e.
Mueller, Comey....Republicans??? Really!
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 4/15/18 at 6:12 pm to
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Explain how the ‘Deep State’ was formed?
Like this?

Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 4/15/18 at 6:22 pm to
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What proof is there of this motive?


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The bottom line is that the notion of Russia's actions aiding the Trump campaign is not something he or his supporters can accept because it makes them look bad.


You reject something which is obvious then blindly believe something which has almost zero evidence. Hell we are at borderline war with Russia by resisting their interests in the Middle East. You are delusional. Its sad
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
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Posted on 4/15/18 at 6:50 pm to
The "Deep State" is nothing more than a synonym for bureaucracy garnished with a nice hefty slice of partisan conspiracy. While most of us, right or left, believe that the government is bureaucratic as frick and oozes red tape from every pore of its collective being, there's only one party who believes this bureaucracy is a hyperpartisan monster and only since a particular man came into office.

The "deep state" is now used to excuse the audacity and corruption of a narcissistic, uncouth, ineffective, dimwitted, racist sexual predator of a con man when the bureaucracy holds him accountable for abusing the office he holds. Trump campaign staffers had nearly 100 meeting with Russians prior to the election? That's just the "deep state" making shite up. Trump paid off a porn star less than 2 weeks before the election to keep her quiet? That's just the "deep state" digging up unimportant dirt. The FBI extends a FISA monitoring warrant against a self-admitted Kremlin puppet named Carter Page? Obviously, the liberal deep state at the FBI made all of this up to go after Trump.

The true "deep state", if one insists on using this ambiguous term, moreso alludes to what SCLibertarian referred to; a world of dark money, lobbyists, wealthy donors, and powerful institutions like banks and defense contractors who fight behind the scenes for power. They don't always win, but they don't always lose, either. This "deep state" is not partisan, it's all about money. Trump's actions, and the fact he's been exposed as being the fraud half of Americans knew he was before he took office, are in no way associated with this version of the "deep state".

Basically, anyone who uses "deep state" in relation to Trump are basically just deeply paranoid, gullible, ignorant, or a combination of all three.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
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Posted on 4/15/18 at 6:56 pm to
All those lifelong Dem Federal employees in DC are pure!
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
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Posted on 4/15/18 at 7:01 pm to
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All those lifelong Dem Federal employees in DC are pure!


And the Republicans.....ya know, guys like Mueller, Rosenstein, Sessions, Wray, McCabe, Gowdy, and Comey.

Also, it's hilarious to me that some of you arse hats think that the FBI and CIA are full of liberals. I mean, really?!? Every other segment of law enforcement and the military are overwhelming conservative but, somehow, the FBI and CIA are liberals?
The same FBI that announced Hillary was being investigated 11 days prior to a Presidential election but chose NOT to tell us that Trump was under FBI investigation, as well?

Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/15/18 at 7:04 pm to
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And the Republicans.....ya know, guys like Mueller, Rosenstein, Sessions, Wray, McCabe, Gowdy, and Comey.
90% Dem arse hat.

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The same FBI that announced Hillary was being investigated 11 days prior to a Presidential election but chose NOT to tell us that Trump was under FBI investigation, as well?
That was to cover for McCabe's Democrat wife taking hillionaire's buddy MacAullife's 675K arse hat, he was covering for not recusing arse hat!
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 4/15/18 at 7:05 pm to
Mmmmbeeer, the data does not support the assertion that the military is conservative
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
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Posted on 4/15/18 at 7:07 pm to
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Mmmmbeeer, the data does not support the assertion that the military is conservative


I was in the military and I can tell you it's an overwhelmingly conservative group of folks. Here's an article from Military Times showing Trump was favored by greater than a 2-1 margin over Clinton in '16.

Military Times
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/15/18 at 7:08 pm to
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Trump was favored by greater than a 2-1 margin over Clinton in '16.
Because we in the military knew Hillionaire would be absolutely worthless as CinC.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 4/15/18 at 7:09 pm to
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That was to cover for McCabe's Democrat wife taking hillionaire's buddy MacAullife's 675K arse hat, he was covering for not recusing arse hat!


Comey was covering for McCabe's wife? Interesting.

I know OIG said McCabe leaked because he was being unfairly labeled as a shill for Hillary but that was never confirmed until Comey opened his yap and sent a letter to the House, which was leaked by that douchebag Jason Chaffetz.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 4/15/18 at 7:11 pm to
Maybe with privates, but among the higher ranks, it’s blue/purple
Posted by Flem
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 4/15/18 at 9:54 pm to
Started Jan 20th 2017
Posted by lsuoilengr
Member since Aug 2008
5149 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 9:55 pm to
The Left can do no wrong.

They can lie under oath...but Mike Flynn has to bankrupt himself before pleading out because he can't recall a conversation THAT THEY TAPED VIA A WARRANT DERIVED FROM A POLITICAL DOCUMENT AND IS FALSE. They can have business dealings and even represent Russian oligarch interests without registering as a foreign agent..."Oh, my bad." says Podesta, a mere oversight, let me go down and register. They can run an illegal server (with INTENT!) and pass classified documents across it, BleachBit it, take a hammer to any & all devices while its all under subpoena to produce and say "I've given all my yoga class appointments to Congress." but...let some deplorable sailor take a few pictures of his boat and its prison. They can sic the IRS on their political enemies and when caught call it "Oh just some rogue agents" and then "Whoopsie the hard drives of these political hack employees were...recycled...sorry about that!"

Motherfricking cocksuckers.

I-Don't-Want-To-Hear-Another-fricking-Word-About-The-Law.

Ever.

Until these sonofabitches are convicted and sentenced.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/15/18 at 9:58 pm to
Man y’all got it bad
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
38041 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 10:05 pm to
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The "Deep State" is nothing more than a synonym for bureaucracy garnished with a nice hefty slice of partisan conspiracy.


No it's not, it's a synonym for the Central Bank owned by outsiders.

Outlanders...who have no care for countries or borders...but hold the US hostage. To get into wars, to spend this and that...to import immigrants.

The ones who own America are for profit...like any business and banks.

All they want is cheap labor and massive profits which creates more control.

More taxes, more peons...no countries, no borders...just workers.

US is so in debt we are beholden to this cabal, ergo the backlash against Trump. He's not toeing the line.

To be anti-Trump means to love Asia over America...and to love cheap slave labor. If you are liberal you love slave labor from the globalists and don't believe a country is anything but to slice your earnings from and then leave. Like a stuck fat pig.

If you believe in this anti-Trump crusade you have no sense of self or purpose and you really don't care about your fellow Americans. Because you want massive migration to eviserate their chances of happiness.
This post was edited on 4/15/18 at 10:08 pm
Posted by lsuoilengr
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 4/15/18 at 10:06 pm to
Posted by Bison
Truth or Consequences
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 10:52 am to
I like how they came up with the excuse that it was “unelected” folks who make up the deep state, thereby clearing themselves of all fault. Makes me wonder why they don’t have a problem with Ivanka Trump filling in for her Dad at various U.N. Events.

After hearing the responses in this thread, this is how I picture those trying to explain the deep state



Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
65597 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 11:00 am to
At a weekend retreat organized by cum laude grads from each of the Ivy League schools and a cabal of globalist bankers. That’s what I heard
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