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Posted on 8/30/19 at 2:40 pm to Strannix
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For instance, the chance of an American being murdered in a terrorist attack caused by a refugee is 1 in 3.64 billion per year while the chance of being murdered in an attack committed by an illegal immigrant is an astronomical 1 in 10.9 billion per year.
Just to put this tragic event into context.
LINK
This post was edited on 8/30/19 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 8/30/19 at 2:42 pm to Strannix
Mooselimb?
Posted on 8/30/19 at 2:44 pm to Aubie Spr96
I'm sure that is comforting info for her family and friends.
Posted on 8/30/19 at 2:44 pm to roadGator
quote:In that case, we need to get rid of citizens since they commit more murders. Sit down and shut up. Nobody needs your input here.
Now do raw numbers.
Posted on 8/30/19 at 2:49 pm to Aubie Spr96
Yep.
The current presence and number of illegals in this country does not pose an increased safety risk for citizens. If it did, there would be comprehensive numbers indicating said increase.
Anybody arguing otherwise is either a fool or a hack with an agenda.
There is no way to prove me wrong except with numbers. Literally anything anyone else says in opposition is nothing but useless melt.
Present the numbers or fly the L, hacks.
The current presence and number of illegals in this country does not pose an increased safety risk for citizens. If it did, there would be comprehensive numbers indicating said increase.
Anybody arguing otherwise is either a fool or a hack with an agenda.
There is no way to prove me wrong except with numbers. Literally anything anyone else says in opposition is nothing but useless melt.
Present the numbers or fly the L, hacks.
Posted on 8/30/19 at 2:54 pm to xiv
LINK
Non-Citizens Committed a Disproportionate Share of Federal Crimes, 2011-16
New data from the U.S. Sentencing Commission shows that of those convicted of federal crimes between 2011 and 2016, 44.2 percent were not U.S. citizens — 21.4 percent, if immigration crimes are excluded. In comparison, non-citizens are 8.4 percent of the adult population. Of this 8.4 percent, about 4 percent are illegal immigrants and about 4 percent are legal immigrants.
The commission's data does not distinguish legal status among non-citizens. It is almost certain that a majority of the non-citizens convicted of federal crimes are illegal immigrants. But we cannot say for sure because that information is not provided. What we can say, at least at the federal level, is that non-citizens are more likely to commit crimes than citizens. And in the federal system, where we do have good data, non-citizens account for a disproportionate share of those who are sentenced for many different types of non-immigration crimes.
Among the findings of the new data:
Areas where non-citizens account for a much larger share of convictions than their 8.4 percent share of the adult population include:
42.4 percent of kidnapping convictions;
31.5 percent of drug convictions;
22.9 percent of money laundering convictions;
13.4 percent of administration of justice offenses
17.8 percent of economic crimes
13 percent of other convictions
12.8 percent of auto thefts.
Areas where non-citizens account for a share of convictions roughly equal to their share of the adult population include:
9.6 percent of assaults;
8.9 percent of homicides; and
7.5 percent of firearm crimes.
Non-Citizens Committed a Disproportionate Share of Federal Crimes, 2011-16
New data from the U.S. Sentencing Commission shows that of those convicted of federal crimes between 2011 and 2016, 44.2 percent were not U.S. citizens — 21.4 percent, if immigration crimes are excluded. In comparison, non-citizens are 8.4 percent of the adult population. Of this 8.4 percent, about 4 percent are illegal immigrants and about 4 percent are legal immigrants.
The commission's data does not distinguish legal status among non-citizens. It is almost certain that a majority of the non-citizens convicted of federal crimes are illegal immigrants. But we cannot say for sure because that information is not provided. What we can say, at least at the federal level, is that non-citizens are more likely to commit crimes than citizens. And in the federal system, where we do have good data, non-citizens account for a disproportionate share of those who are sentenced for many different types of non-immigration crimes.
Among the findings of the new data:
Areas where non-citizens account for a much larger share of convictions than their 8.4 percent share of the adult population include:
42.4 percent of kidnapping convictions;
31.5 percent of drug convictions;
22.9 percent of money laundering convictions;
13.4 percent of administration of justice offenses
17.8 percent of economic crimes
13 percent of other convictions
12.8 percent of auto thefts.
Areas where non-citizens account for a share of convictions roughly equal to their share of the adult population include:
9.6 percent of assaults;
8.9 percent of homicides; and
7.5 percent of firearm crimes.
Posted on 8/30/19 at 2:54 pm to Crimson Wraith
Boom
Posted on 8/30/19 at 3:01 pm to Strannix
Dc need to get to work to keep up with the illegal immigrant raping going on in Maryland
Posted on 8/30/19 at 3:04 pm to roadGator
quote:
Boom
Yeah. He left out something important:
quote:
Most law enforcement occurs at the state and local level and it is not reasonable to simply extrapolate about immigrant criminality generally from the federal data.
They tell you not to do what the guy just did......
Posted on 8/30/19 at 3:13 pm to Aubie Spr96
They commit a higher rate of federal crimes.
Fact?
Fact?
Posted on 8/30/19 at 6:40 pm to Crimson Wraith
Thanks for those numbers, but they don’t represent what we’re talking about.
Federal crimes =/= violent crimes
Federal crimes =/= violent crimes
Posted on 8/30/19 at 7:03 pm to xiv
quote:
Federal crimes =/= violent crimes
So you’re saying only those specifically labeled “violent crimes” are the only ones that make society less safe? What specifically are labeled “non violent”
Countless killed by drunk driving illegals.
This post was edited on 8/30/19 at 7:08 pm
Posted on 8/30/19 at 7:10 pm to xiv
Anyway your point is logically flawed, let’s say even if immigrants commit crimes st lower rates than the native more. It is still MORE crime than otherwise you idiot.
(Native born population x rate crime) less than (native born population x crime rate) + (immigrant population x crime rate]
Very simple concept
(Native born population x rate crime) less than (native born population x crime rate) + (immigrant population x crime rate]
Very simple concept
This post was edited on 8/30/19 at 7:16 pm
Posted on 8/30/19 at 7:26 pm to Strannix
quote:What I am saying can be found in the thread. What you’re saying in that quote is not what I have said.
So you’re saying only those specifically labeled “violent crimes” are the only ones that make society less safe?
Posted on 8/30/19 at 7:27 pm to Strannix
quote:
Anyway your point is logically flawed, let’s say even if immigrants commit crimes st lower rates than the native more. It is still MORE crime than otherwise you idiot.
Do you not know what “rate” means? Yes, illegals increase the number of violent crimes committed. They also increase the number of potential targets of violent criminals. These two totals increase respectively in a way that does not change the violent crime rate in this country.
Conclusion: the presence of illegals currently does not make you or me more vulnerable to violent crime.
If you disagree, you either have numbers or a bullshite agenda. Which is it?
This post was edited on 8/30/19 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 8/30/19 at 7:29 pm to xiv
I’m not talking about rates, I’m talking about total crime, obviously I know what it means as it is laid out in my formula which indisputably proves more immigrants equals more crimes.
Even a simpleton like yourself can comprehend it.
Even a simpleton like yourself can comprehend it.
Posted on 8/30/19 at 7:30 pm to Strannix
quote:Ahh, so you have a bullshite agenda. Noted.
I’m not talking about rates, I’m talking about total crime, obviously I know what it means as it is laid out in my formula which indisputably proves more immigrants equals more crimes.
Even a simpleton like yourself can comprehend it.
Posted on 8/30/19 at 7:30 pm to Freight Joker
He got the wrong target. Was going after the girl Omar cucked. Same neighbor, similar physical traits.
Posted on 8/30/19 at 7:32 pm to xiv
quote:
Ahh, so you have a bullshite agenda. Noted.
Not even a quark of the bullshite contained in your agenda of lumping in inner city crime rates with those of rural, less the slums of America we would be one of the safest nations on earth.
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