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EPA wants Alaskans to stop burning wood for warmth
Posted on 1/2/17 at 9:54 am
Posted on 1/2/17 at 9:54 am
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Apparently heating oil is too expensive and natural gas is not available. Do they still make electric blankets?
Apparently heating oil is too expensive and natural gas is not available. Do they still make electric blankets?
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Posted on 1/2/17 at 9:55 am to Zach
Blue light special on th EPA, soon to be 80% off.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 9:56 am to Zach
I told my old wood cutting buddy the other day, that we'll need a permit to burn our stove within the next ten years...if not less. I love my fire. The dogs too; looks like throw rugs all around the stove.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 9:58 am to Zach
Thank god we have a new President coming to end this shite.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 10:04 am to Zach
60% of new builds now have a fireplace. It has been trending up since the 70s.
You know at some point the greenies are gonna go after fireplaces.
You know at some point the greenies are gonna go after fireplaces.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 10:04 am to Zach
What assholes. Trying to warn us that we're poisoning the air
Posted on 1/2/17 at 10:07 am to crewdepoo
Carbon dioxide is poison, should we just stop breathing ?
Posted on 1/2/17 at 10:09 am to roguetiger15
See, this is why some of us hate the government.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 10:11 am to SouthernHog
There have been stories on this in the New York Times. Wood puts particles in the air and the nature of winter with temperature inversions means that the smoke and particles don't just harmlessly dissipate in the larger atmosphere. People are breathing in smoke and other particles which has been shown to be bad to your health.
Sure if the atmosphere at winter was such that the air could just blow away there would be no problem. It's like forms a smog in the winter that gets trapped in valleys.
Sure if the atmosphere at winter was such that the air could just blow away there would be no problem. It's like forms a smog in the winter that gets trapped in valleys.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 10:13 am to crewdepoo
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What a-holes. Trying to warn us that we're poisoning the air
Why don't you propose an actual alternative?
It gets kind of cold in the winter. The rest of the world isn't necessarily identical to your immediate area.
Maybe you want old people to freeze to death?
Posted on 1/2/17 at 10:17 am to crewdepoo
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What assholes. Trying to warn us that we're poisoning the air
Posted on 1/2/17 at 10:17 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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People are breathing in smoke and other particles which has been shown to be bad to your health.
It's Alaska. There is no population density for particulates to become an issue. And what about the Eskimos? Maybe burning wood is a sacred tradition to the native peoples.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 10:18 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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There have been stories on this in the New York Times. Wood puts particles in the air and the nature of winter with temperature inversions means that the smoke and particles don't just harmlessly dissipate in the larger atmosphere. People are breathing in smoke and other particles which has been shown to be bad to your health. Sure if the atmosphere at winter was such that the air could just blow away there would be no problem. It's like forms a smog in the winter that gets trapped in valleys.
Please help me here.. Many people (you seem to be on the side of the EPA here) would want to curtail anything in US that would be remotely harmful to the environment.
Even if this were possible, it still would not stop the pollution of the environment as a whole, because of China, Russia and other countries who don't have these regulations in place. What is your solution to that? They don't give a frick about regulations and would tell EPA to go to hell.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 10:18 am to Bestbank Tiger
Burning firewood is the ultimate green energy.
Renewable
Recyclable
Natural
Renewable
Recyclable
Natural
Posted on 1/2/17 at 10:22 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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People are breathing in smoke and other particles which has been shown to be bad to your health.
Freezing to death is bad for ones health.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 10:25 am to Ralph_Wiggum
quote:How is -50 degrees and no heat for your health?
People are breathing in smoke and other particles which has been shown to be bad to your health.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 10:25 am to Zach
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It's Alaska. There is no population density for particulates to become an issue. And what about the Eskimos? Maybe burning wood is a sacred tradition to the native peoples.
There are towns in valleys where you do have the population density and population density is not an issue. Wether you have one or 1000 people they are still breathing bad air. A town of 1,000 people in the valley under the temperature inversions in the winter will be breathing polluted air which causes health problems and increases the health care costs via premiums or taxes for everyone. It's cheaper to breath clear air for the whole.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 10:26 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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There have been stories on this in the New York Times. Wood puts particles in the air and the nature of winter with temperature inversions means that the smoke and particles don't just harmlessly dissipate in the larger atmosphere. People are breathing in smoke and other particles which has been shown to be bad to your health.
Sure if the atmosphere at winter was such that the air could just blow away there would be no problem. It's like forms a smog in the winter that gets trapped in valleys.
There is going to be a point (obviously burning wood to stay alive isn't that point for you) that even you are going to say "whoa, maybe we're going a little too far."
For you, Ralph, it might be when your organic, homegrown bean paste patty gets you arrested, because it wasn't made with 100% renewable energy (the bag you used to move the compost in your garden wasn't woven from local untreated grasses).
Posted on 1/2/17 at 10:27 am to UncleFestersLegs
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How is -50 degrees and no heat for your health?
There are other forms of heat. Natural gas, propane and electrical which do not hurt the air quality as bad. But there's only one source of air to breath unlike energy sources.
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