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re: End times prophecy: Armies of Gog & Magog attack Israel and are destroyed by God

Posted on 5/13/21 at 3:38 pm to
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 3:38 pm to
I'm a believer in democracy and freedom. Israel has been constantly attacked because of who they are. Israel has had our backs through thick or thin. I believe in loyalty
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62470 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 3:40 pm to
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I'm a believer in democracy and freedom. Israel has been constantly attacked because of who they are. Israel has had our backs through thick or thin. I believe in loyalty


OK. I wish they'd stop selling our shite to China, but you're apparently good with it.
Posted by Atiger88
Alabama
Member since Apr 2021
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 3:41 pm to
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I'm a believer in democracy and freedom. Israel has been constantly attacked because of who they are. Israel has had our backs through thick or thin. I believe in loyalty
You care more about Israel than you do your own country. Frick that. This obsession that Christians have with Israel is sick.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15112 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 3:46 pm to
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You care more about Israel than you do your own country. Frick that. This obsession that Christians have with Israel is sick.


Where did I say I care more about ANY country more than America. That is really a stupid comment. I've served time in the US Navy for my country have you?. I've pretty much stated I was behind Israel because of it's friendship and being there for us. You even used my quote that stated that.

Not once have I said it's because of the Bible. You want to think that because you have no other form of debate.
This post was edited on 5/13/21 at 3:48 pm
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15112 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 3:49 pm to
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wish they'd stop selling our shite to China, but you're apparently good with it.


Are you good with the democrats, our own citizens, doing this ..
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62470 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 3:50 pm to
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Are you good with the democrats, our own citizens, doing this ..


Nope. Are you? You may as well excuse their actions too. You seem to have no problem with it.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15112 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 3:54 pm to
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Nope. Are you? You may as well excuse their actions too


I'm totally against it being done by anyone. Is Israel perfect no it's not but it is the only democracy in the ME, which means it's the closet to America in that part of the world. Israel has provided extremely useful intelligence that benefited the United States. Israel also has the right to defend themselves. Sorry you don't see it that way
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 4:28 pm to
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Are you sure that it does not have something to do with the ~1500 years of antisemitism they endured while living in Europe?


It was for this sort of stuff you dork. That is the martyr St. Simon of Trent. That stuff happened a lot.



Posted by Espritdescorps
Member since Nov 2020
2692 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 4:30 pm to
Ethiopia makes no sense. King menelik was the son of king solomon and he visited his father on numerous occasions. Hell, they claim he brought back the ark of the covenant to protect it. Sudan and Somalia, yeah ofcourse....but the ancient abyssinian empire comprised of all of these modern nations. Dont know what to make of it.

Also, where is Egypt
Posted by mikeytig
NE of Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2007
7738 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 4:36 pm to
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The Revelation has the war (battle) being fought at the Mount of Megiddo


This is actually the final and climatic battle which will involve the Antichrist and his allied armies and the Chinese (The Kings of the East).

Russia's invasion and its defeat (along with its allies) sets the stage for the appearance of the Antichrist.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62470 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 4:37 pm to
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This is actually the final and climatic battle which will involve the Antichrist and his allied armies and the Chinese (The Kings of the East).

Russia's invasion and its defeat (along with its allies) sets the stage for the appearance of the Antichrist.


Nice story.
Posted by civilag08
Member since Feb 2011
823 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 5:18 pm to
The sequence of end-times eschatology is one of the most disagreed upon things in the bible. I tend to view the events of Gog Magog as occurring possibly after the 1000 year reign of Christ. Psalm 83 list a group of nations that are closer to Israel (a sort of inner ring), and that nations of shown here are the outer ring, possibly invading after the inner ring had failed. It may even be that Psalm 83 occurs before any taking up (harpazo) of the "sheltered ones" Psalm 83:3. The sheltered ones are likely those taken up and hid, prior to the events of the tribulation, or eklesia (symbolically lampstands) that appear in heaven by Rev 4. The best I have heard is that the events of the confederacy against Israel (would possibly) occur prior to the events of Ezekiel 38. The building of the temple or events surrounding it is also likely to occur around the time of Revelation 11 and the two witnesses. John is told to "measure the temple of God". The two witnesses are likely spreading the gospel message (as the church would) and protecting the temple. They are called "two olive trees and two lampstands standing before the God of the earth" in Rev 11:4 which is reminiscent of Zechariah Chapter 4 where it is referring to two olive trees feeding a lampstand with seven pipes to seven lamps. This chapter also refers to a temple of the Holy Spirit and additionally the second temple that was to built in the days following the Babylonian captivity with the hand of Zerubabbel. Another reason Christians are interested in a temple to be built in Israel.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
14454 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 8:13 pm to
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What do you mean by obsession with this short temporary life? This life is what we have.



What a sad existence that would be.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45818 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 8:25 pm to
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Another reason Christians are interested in a temple to be built in Israel.
A lot of Christians are routing for another temple to be built and animal sacrifices to resume. I can’t think of a more blasphemous sight given that Christians are the temple of the Holy Spirit and Christ’s once-for-all sacrifice was sufficient to cover our sins. To resume animal sacrifices is to go back to signs and shadows.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62470 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 8:26 pm to
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What a sad existence that would be.


Slave morality. How sad it must be to waste what you have now for your imagined afterlife.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62470 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 8:27 pm to
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A lot of Christians are routing for another temple to be built and animal sacrifices to resume. I can’t think of a more blasphemous sight given that Christians are the temple of the Holy Spirit and Christ’s once-for-all sacrifice was sufficient to cover our sins. To resume animal sacrifices is to go back to signs and shadows.


And yet so many are. It's very odd.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45818 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 8:33 pm to
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Slave morality. How sad it must be to waste what you have now for your imagined afterlife.
If God doesn’t exist and there is no afterlife, then there is nothing to waste. Life is meaningless and what one does with it is of no consequence. Whether you spend it looking for your own pleasure, helping others, or spend it trying to destroy everything and everyone around you, it doesn’t matter and everything is permissible because there is no universal standard of the right way to live.
Posted by rphtx
CO
Member since Apr 2018
1547 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 8:34 pm to
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A lot of Christians are routing for another temple to be built and animal sacrifices to resume.


I'd disagree. Many Christians are routing for the temple to be built so the end times prophecies are fulfilled and can get the show going. Not for what sacrificial acts the Jews will be doing in the temple. They missed that boat centuries ago rejecting Jesus as their (and the gentiles) Messiah.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45818 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 8:41 pm to
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I'd disagree. Many Christians are routing for the temple to be built so the end times prophecies are fulfilled and can get the show going. Not for what sacrificial acts the Jews will be doing in the temple. They missed that boat centuries ago rejecting Jesus as their (and the gentiles) Messiah.

I agree about missing the boat but as a Christian, I don’t support any acts of blasphemy against God and would not look forward to them, even if I believed it was bringing the return of Christ. I pray for all people to repent and turn to Christ, not continue in their unbelief and rebellion.
Posted by rphtx
CO
Member since Apr 2018
1547 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 8:45 pm to
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I agree about missing the boat but as a Christian, I don’t support any acts of blasphemy against God and would not look forward to them, even if I believed it was bringing the return of Christ. I pray for all people to repent and turn to Christ, not continue in their unbelief and rebellion


Fair enough
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