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re: End Occupational Licensing---a protectionist barrier to work for many
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:59 am to roadGator
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:59 am to roadGator
quote:I agree, but 4 years?
A bad plumber can wreck your entire house. Let's keep close tabs on them.
It's not rocket surgery.
If they can pass the test after 1 or 2 years, they should be licensed.
Why do you think plumbers charge so much? There are very few of them due to this law.
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:59 am to Ralph_Wiggum
quote:
You can make a good argument for a licensed barber in that they have to sterilize their instruments between customers, they need to know basic safety and first aid if they are going to give you a shave and cut your hair with razor and knives.
And the only possible way they can know this is if they are licensed.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:00 am to buckeye_vol
quote:
But even of there is a line somewhere (physicians, etc.), based on safety, liability, etc., where does a state get the idea florists should be included?
Revenue money and lobbying from established florists.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:01 am to Ralph_Wiggum
And barbers/stylists fall under the Department of Health for each state typically. They are in contact with skin and hair, all which can transmit disease/bacteria/viruses. I'm not saying it's necessary, but that's why it is handled the way it is.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:01 am to I B Freeman
Just asking but if a professional "whatever" is bonded does that mean they are under state guidelines that they have to adhere to?
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:01 am to bhtigerfan
quote:
Why do you think plumbers charge so much? There are very few of them due to this law.
I always thought it was because no one wants to be knee-deep in shite.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:02 am to Ralph_Wiggum
quote:
You can make a good argument for a licensed barber in that they have to sterilize their instruments between customers, they need to know basic safety and first aid if they are going to give you a shave and cut your hair with razor and knives.
Well we do quite well without licensing electric equipment manufacturers or computer manufacturers or even rocket manufacturers.
Barbers should have a trade group that certifies their members or something. No need to have the law reduce competition. Such a trade group could market the skill of their members in hopes of convincing people to use a member barber instead of some one else when they need a hair cut.
There are a lot of people who cut hair in their home that is not licensed. Have you ever heard of any one being arrested? of any one being harmed beyond a bad haircut by such individuals?
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:02 am to HempHead
quote:I've always thought lobbying sounded interesting (maybe because of Thank you for Smoking), but a floral lobbyist sounds terrible.
lobbying from established florists.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:03 am to SabiDojo
quote:
I always thought it was because no one wants to be knee-deep in shite.
It's probably a combination of both. There are societal pressures that work against labor pools in the skilled trades (increased demand and even lower supply might change that, though), as well as state pressures that work against the skilled but unlicensed layman.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:04 am to bhtigerfan
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If they can pass the test after 1 or 2 years, they should be licensed. Why do you think plumbers charge so much? There are very few of them due to this law.
I don't know what the law is in FL but you can probably thank the plumber lobby for any 4 year requirement.
In my experience renovating 4 houses now, all the trades are damn expensive.
The worst one so far was the sprinkler guy. Holy shite.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:06 am to roadGator
quote:
A bad plumber can wreck your entire house. Let's keep close tabs on them.
Have you ever asked a plumber to show you his license?
I doubt half of them are licensed.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:09 am to HempHead
quote:
It's probably a combination of both. There are societal pressures that work against labor pools in the skilled trades (increased demand and even lower supply might change that, though), as well as state pressures that work against the skilled but unlicensed layman.
I don't know. You're dealing with waste. It's dangerous to public health. Especially when you're in areas where people have well water, your actions can have real negative consequences.
I don't have a problem with regulation/occupational licensing. The problem is when those regulations/licenses become burdensome or start having a negative effect on the ROI of your investment in the profession. Law is a PERFECT example of this. Law school is too expensive, the fees for bar admission are too high, the price for CLE's are too high, the ethical rules are bordering insanity, etc. And the starting salaries for the average attorney are dropping. It's no longer appealing to enter the profession. THAT affects the quality of attorneys you see.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:10 am to I B Freeman
quote:
I doubt half of them are licensed.
Yes. I have asked for their license. They actually usually provide a copy for you when they provide a quote.
I doubt your claim is correct.
Mind you, I don't call a plumber for small stuff like changing or fixing faucets/toilets.
If I did, I would use a licensed plumber though. You want someone to be aware of who the hell is coming into your home.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:11 am to SabiDojo
quote:That also.
always thought it was because no one wants to be knee-deep in shite.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:12 am to bhtigerfan
When my son was 3 he was flushing wet wipes down the toilet. One day I flushed the toilet and see literal shite coming up in the bathtub. Just thinking about it makes me want to vomit. Called a plumber and he fixed it in about 5 minutes. He also charged me about $400. I think it was more than that. Whatever. I paid the man.
I think it was more than that. Whatever. I paid the man. Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:14 am to roadGator
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You want someone to be aware of who the hell is coming into your home.
And to know he has insurance in case he fricks up something in the process. I'd much rather his insurance has to fix his errors as opposed to mine fixing it.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:17 am to Homesick Tiger
Yes. Insured is indeed a plus.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:17 am to I B Freeman
quote:
In Louisiana we license florist and barbers and all kinds of occupations that have no real threat to the public.
You ever had a bad haircut?
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:22 am to SabiDojo
quote:
I don't have a problem with regulation/occupational licensing. The problem is when those regulations/licenses become burdensome or start having a negative effect on the ROI of your investment in the profession. Law is a PERFECT example of this. Law school is too expensive, the fees for bar admission are too high, the price for CLE's are too high, the ethical rules are bordering insanity, etc. And the starting salaries for the average attorney are dropping. It's no longer appealing to enter the profession. THAT affects the quality of attorneys you see.
You've come up with a reason why each industry mentioned is okay to be mandated a license, but then turn around and say your industries' regulations are too much. Interesting.
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You're dealing with waste. It's dangerous to public health.
Could be said about lawyers too.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 10:25 am
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:26 am to SLafourche07
Um, it's because I only have firsthand experience of them. I can't say which regs are too burdensome for plumbers or electricians. All I said was I understand WHY regulation is necessary. Same for law. Regulations are needed for law, both to protect the lucrativeness of the profession AND the public. But when you overburden it, you can have a negative effect on its quality.
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