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Elon Musk slams Trump's NASA bill: It changes almost nothing for a manned mission to Mars
Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:15 am
Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:15 am
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Elon Musk has hit back at claims that President Donald Trump's new NASA bill will be good for his space exploration business, saying it does nothing to get SpaceX's mission to Mars off the ground.
The serial entrepreneur took to Twitter Tuesday to respond to Kara Swisher, co-founder of technology news website Recode, who said the president's decision to grant NASA $19.5 billion in funding would leave Musk "smiling."
"I am not," wrote Musk, chief executive of SpaceX. "This bill changes almost nothing about what NASA is doing. Existing programs stay in place and there is no added funding for Mars.
"Perhaps there will be some future bill that makes a difference for Mars, but this is not it," Musk added in a later Tweet.
The S.442 funding bill, signed by President Trump Tuesday, is the first of its kind to pass through Congress in six years and will help facilitate NASA's deep space exploration projects and promote private-public partnerships and job creation, the White House said.
This includes "achieving human exploration of Mars and beyond," the bill noted.
However, Musk claims the new funding will not provide a boost to his aims of making commercial travel to Mars a reality for the public.
His space transportation company SpaceX is currently working in collaboration with NASA under a $1.6 billion contract, which has so far flown 10 cargo missions to the International Space Station.
Its ultimate goal is to enable space travel to, and colonization of, Mars.
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:16 am to Bench McElroy
quote:"Serial entrepreneur"?
The serial entrepreneur
Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:17 am to Bench McElroy
"I want more of your tax dollars!"
Legitimate spacefaring budgeting is probably the last thing on my list regarding my hate for government spending, but this is ridiculous.
Legitimate spacefaring budgeting is probably the last thing on my list regarding my hate for government spending, but this is ridiculous.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:18 am to Bench McElroy
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slams Trump
Doesn't come across as a slam at all. Just sounds like Musk wanted more, more, more....
Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:31 am to Bench McElroy
Musk knows how to get money for Trump.
He gets this out into the media, Trump will see it, call him and ask him what is wrong with the bill. Musk will then use his supergenius to milk more tax dollars
He gets this out into the media, Trump will see it, call him and ask him what is wrong with the bill. Musk will then use his supergenius to milk more tax dollars
Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:33 am to joshnorris14
quote:I'm not seeing the word "Congress" in here
Musk knows how to get money for Trump.
He gets this out into the media, Trump will see it, call him and ask him what is wrong with the bill. Musk will then use his supergenius to milk more tax dollars
Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:34 am to Bench McElroy
Does DU put out a list of articles to spam?
Dead serious question.
Dead serious question.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:35 am to roadGator
Is this thread Germans? I'm gun-shy calling it now after I screwed up last time.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 11:36 am
Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:35 am to joshnorris14
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Musk will then use his supergenius to milk more tax dollars
What if I want my tax dollars going to Musk?
Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:37 am to OMLandshark
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What if I want my tax dollars going to Musk?
You could just donate to his company as an option.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:49 am to Bench McElroy
I don't get the need to send humans to mars. Why not just probes/drones/robots? The costs and logistics required to safeguard human life over a drone are mindboggling in comparison. There is no reason to do it outside of pure vanity. The last thing I want to do is spend a hundred billion dollars to blow up another school teacher before they leave the atmosphere or see a livestream of the slow death of someone stranded a hundred million miles away.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:49 am to Bench McElroy
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However, Musk claims the new funding will not provide a boost to his aims of making commercial travel to Mars a reality for the public.
frick off Elon. Why should the tax payers be boosting your business? Providing commercial travel to Mars serves as a means to make him more money. It provides no useful benefit to the taxpayers.
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His space transportation company SpaceX is currently working in collaboration with NASA under a $1.6 billion contract, which has so far flown 10 cargo missions to the International Space Station.
This serves a purpose. SpaceX in this role provides NASA a useful service. But as far as his whining that the government isn't funding his ambition for providing commercial flight to Mars? Shove it.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:55 am to TheRodFather
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I don't get the need to send humans to mars.
Mankind's destiny lies far beyond our home, IMO.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:10 pm to TheRodFather
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I don't get the need to send humans to mars.
The survival of the species and to bring mankind to its next pinnacle.
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Why not just probes/drones/robots?
Because no one but the biggest nerds care about those. Guarantee no more than 1 out of 10 people in this country could tell me what the latest rover to land on Mars was or the probe that passed by Pluto, or the countless others out there. I bet the only probes the average American can name are Voyager 1 and 2, and that's really it. But the Apollo Program, that singhandedly got young dreamers out the door.
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The costs and logistics required to safeguard human life over a drone are mindboggling in comparison.
Well, some people have balls and want to do it. The first group that steps foot on Mars will never, ever be forgotten and will really dwarf Columbus and Armstrong/Aldrin in comparison.
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There is no reason to do it outside of pure vanity.
Or taking the species to a further place, giving us superior technology, and possibly save us from extinction.
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The last thing I want to do is spend a hundred billion dollars to blow up another school teacher before they leave the atmosphere or see a livestream of the slow death of someone stranded a hundred million miles away.
But you don't mind if we spend another hundred million dollars on drones here to blow up a bunch of school children in the Middle East. Gotcha.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:12 pm to Bench McElroy
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Elon Musk slams Trump's NASA bill:
fake news
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:16 pm to OMLandshark
I recall some euros landing a probe on a comet, but the only news that came out of it was how un-PC the shirt one of the scientist wore.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:21 pm to OMLandshark
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But you don't mind if we spend another hundred million dollars on drones here to blow up a bunch of school children in the Middle East. Gotcha.
Yeah, you really "got me" with that complete strawman. You can put another check next to your "internet arguments won (against an imaginary opponent in my head)" tally. Wtf man? I'm ok with bombing ME schoolchildren?
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:36 pm to OMLandshark
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Or taking the species to a further place, giving us superior technology, and possibly save us from extinction.
Save us from extinction? We can do that without leaving the atmosphere if we're smart enough. Going to a lifeless planet seems like the absolute wrong way to do it. Besides, if we leave, we might miss Jesus' 2nd coming. Then what?
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