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re: Elon Musk says WFH is morally wrong

Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:01 pm to
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:01 pm to
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the employee was taking off work under false pretenses.


Again NAFO you failed reading comprehension. He wasn't taking off under false pretenses. He was leaving work for an hour while still on the clock to show a house. Having other RTs cover his patients for a hour is a patient safety issue.
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:01 pm to
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I can't stand fraudsters
Then you must hate yourself...
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:02 pm to
What a stupid argument for WFH. Some jobs require in person so it's morally wrong for jobs that don't to work at home? What a dip shite
Posted by Diego Ricardo
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:03 pm to
Eh, you could make an argument for certain office jobs that you aren't paying to control their location for 8 hours or so per day, you're paying for what they can do when you need it.

Do I care if my network admin spent his core hours in office all week when they're nowhere to be found outside of core hours and there is a network issue affecting your product?

In my opinion, I don't care if you work from home as long as you are responsive and productive. I see it as paying for skills and availability. I don't give a shite if you work on the stuff at 3 AM as long as it is done in time to deliver to the internal or external party.
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:03 pm to
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Having other RTs cover his patients for a hour is a patient safety issue.
Having you as a nurse is a patient safety issue...
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:05 pm to
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He was leaving work for an hour while still on the clock

Is he paid hourly? Who is his supervisor?

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Having other RTs cover his patients for a hour is a patient safety issue.

If he was out sick would other RTs cover or is that not a safety issue?
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:05 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:06 pm to
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if you are on the clock running groceries and to the gym

What if you're salaried and not hourly?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:07 pm to
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He was leaving work for an hour while still on the clock to show a house. Having other RTs cover his patients for a hour is a patient safety issue.


How was he working from home while seeing patients in an office?
Posted by LSUGrrrl
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:07 pm to
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CEOs will decide


Exactly how it should be. Businesses decide, not the government. You must agree with me as your examples were all of actual businesses deciding how they are managing their workforce, not the government.
Posted by Mick Hogger
Little Rock
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:12 pm to
My WFH trade off is that I don't turn off my laptop end of day and I'm available to call almost anytime if anyone needs my assistance. Plus I'm in an oncall rotation and might be up a time or 2 during the night.

If I go in you can forget me being available after hours. I'm not going home and turning it back on.

You just sound jealous because you're not skilled enough to find a job that allows you any freedom.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:14 pm to
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If he was out sick would other RTs cover or is that not a safety issue?


Are you stupid? If he was out sick another RT would be called in or a agency RT would be called in. The same patient safety ratios would be maintained. Totally different when he leaves during the middle of his shift.
This post was edited on 11/18/24 at 3:25 pm
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:16 pm to
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Are you stupid? If he was out sick another another RT would be called in or a agency RT would be called in. The same patient safety ratios would be maintained. Totally different when he leaves during the middle of his shift.

Oh I thought this was about WFH...so you have these same problems in office and WFH is unrelated?

Doesn't sound like an argument against WFH at all. Maybe more like whoever manages this place is a dunce.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:16 pm to
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Totally different when he leaves during the middle of his shift.


Where did he leave from? The office?
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:18 pm to
I mean basically. He was leaving the hospital and his patients to go show a house to his real estate buyer while still being on the clock.
Posted by wheelr
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:18 pm to
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Why would Elon be able to affect wfh for private companies?


In another thread earlier I saw the OP say WFH should be made illegal.

lol
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:19 pm to
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He was leaving the hospital


Does he live at the hospital?

Is this some new program to recruit Respiratory Therapists?
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:23 pm to
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You just sound jealous because you're not skilled enough to find a job that allows you any freedom.


That's the exact opposite. I went into a profession where I only work 36 hours a week and make 150k a year. I can work anywhere I want in America. I just can't stand fraudsters running to the grocery store and gym while on the clock
Posted by redneck hippie
Oklahoma
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:24 pm to
PT board going to be lonely 9-5 M-F if posters have to return to their corporate cubicles
This post was edited on 11/18/24 at 3:26 pm
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:26 pm to
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That's the exact opposite. I went into a profession where I only work 36 hours a week and make 150k a year.

Are you still hourly?

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I can work anywhere I want in America

Just not from home....

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I just can't stand fraudsters running to the grocery store and gym while on the clock

Is this disdain for only hourly people? As a salary employee I don't see why it matters what time I plan activities in my day.
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