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re: Elon Musk just said online survey "Do you like the National Park" costed nearly $1 BILLION
Posted on 3/28/25 at 8:43 am to John Barron
Posted on 3/28/25 at 8:43 am to John Barron
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If you would of watched the video you would know there is a delay in reports uploading. They said the reports should be available in real time shortly. Your assertion that they put all this time, money, and energy into finding this fraud is somehow a big hoax and they are making up numbers?
The irony, is that they claim that Elon is making up these numbers. Ok, so if there isn't all of this waste, then why are you bitching about Elon cutting government spending?
Libs/Aggiehank/4cubbies: "Show me proof Elon is making all of these cuts"
Normal people: "here are some videos and a website where you can do your research"
Libs: "That's not proof, and that's not the billions Elon says it is"
Normies: "Every cut that is being made is being posted here. It takes a few days to upload the latest cuts. Give it time"
Libs: "Ha, this is proof these cuts aren't happening and there is no waste"
Normies: "If cuts aren't happening and there is no waste, then what are you mad about?"
Libs: "Elon's a Nazi!!!!"
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Posted on 3/28/25 at 9:17 am to HubbaBubba
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How? I really want to know how.
Elon Musk created a webpage that states there was a 1.9 BB contract between a tech company and a government agency.
Apparently, that's how. That's the available "receipts."
This post was edited on 3/28/25 at 9:19 am
Posted on 3/28/25 at 9:18 am to BugAC
If you want me to apologize for distrusting the government, you're barking up the wrong tree.
Drink all the Kool-Aid you want.
Drink all the Kool-Aid you want.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 9:20 am to 4cubbies
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Does Elon Musk ever substantiate his claims with evidence?
He is providing evidence and telling us about it. Validating it is going to take some time and involve Congress for waste and law enforcement for fraud.
The billion dollar survey sounds like fraud, but it could be waste. We won't know until we investigate it. When will that be? Who knows? The number of things to be investigated is mind boggling. I think a lot of these cases may end up with us cutting our losses. I think there will be too many cases of people skimming for us to prosecute them all. We will have to pick and choose our battles.
I think a billion dollars for a survey is fraudulent. Some people may disagree. Maybe the billion dollars paid for a survey AND a bunch of missiles for Ukraine. Who knows? If it's legitimate someone should stand up and defend it. If not cut it from the budget and either move on, or prosecute whoever stole the money.
Either way, let's make sure we don't continue paying for all this shite...
This post was edited on 3/28/25 at 9:22 am
Posted on 3/28/25 at 9:23 am to 4cubbies
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If you want me to apologize for distrusting the government, you're barking up the wrong tree.
This is hilarious. The same woman who was complaining when school lunches during the summer was being cancelled for food stamp recipients.
You don't see the irony of your comment do you? You "distrust the government" but you are angry that Musk is identifying billions and eventually trillions in waste? Looks like you only distrust when waste is reported, and not the govenrment.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 9:25 am to Jax-Tiger
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The billion dollar survey sounds like fraud, but it could be waste. We won't know until we investigate it. When will that be? Who knows?
Last update for the receipts on the DOGE website was 3/24/25. I'd wager that by Monday you'll see the Department of Interior receipt for this cut. And when you do, aggiehank and 4cubbies will all of a sudden not care.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 9:26 am to BugAC
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And when you do, aggiehank and 4cubbies will all of a sudden not care.
Do you expect me to continue to ask for proof once proof is available?
Posted on 3/28/25 at 9:27 am to Jax-Tiger
quote:Or the story could be pure nonsense.
The billion dollar survey sounds like fraud, but it could be waste.
It'll be interesting to see which.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 9:28 am to BugAC
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but you are angry that Musk is identifying billions and eventually trillions in waste?
? Who is angry?
When he said loans were made to babies, I wanted to know what companies these babies claimed to run and in what states but I'm still waiting on the evidence of these loans.
He said a billion dollar contract was made for a survey - aren't you curious to know who was the benefactor of this contract? What company got this contract? We'll know when the evidence is made available. '
I guess you don't care who is benefiting from the waste? I do.
This post was edited on 3/28/25 at 9:29 am
Posted on 3/28/25 at 9:29 am to 4cubbies
What would be the intention of drawing national and worldwide attention to this, and going on camera, to lie about any of this when things are being actively tracked? Are you insinuating they’re fabricating as well?
Posted on 3/28/25 at 9:31 am to lsuguy84
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What would be the intention of drawing national and worldwide attention to this, and going on camera, to lie about any of this when things are being actively tracked? Are you insinuating they’re fabricating as well?
What is the intention behind making grandiose claims on camera without being able to prove or choosing not to prove the claims?
I don't need to assign a motive to someone's actions to question the actions.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 9:37 am to 4cubbies
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What is the intention behind making grandiose claims on camera without being able to prove or choosing not to prove the claims?
You aren't even aware of the DOGE website. You say "choosing not to prove" when every single claim/receipt has been posted there. I just told you that 3/24 was the last update. Before that it was 3/7. Considering they are cutting $4 billion/day, that is a lot of data to upload. Remarkably, however, you aren't even upset that $4 billion/day of waste/fraud/inefficiency is being found in our government. You are only upset that Musk found it. You are a silly person.
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I don't need to assign a motive to someone's actions to question the actions
You post this after posting the first question? Clown.
This post was edited on 3/28/25 at 9:39 am
Posted on 3/28/25 at 9:40 am to BugAC
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You aren't even aware of the DOGE website. You say "choosing not to prove" when every single claim/receipt has been posted there.
Can you give me a direct link to receipt that proves this $1 BB survey for the NPS exists?
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You are only upset that Musk found it.
What makes you say this? It's alarming that a grown adult is so willing to believe what the government claims without question. Were you this trusting during COVID?
Posted on 3/28/25 at 9:44 am to 4cubbies
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When he said loans were made to babies, I wanted to know what companies these babies claimed to run and in what states but I'm still waiting on the evidence of these loans.
Go to the website. Do your own work.
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He said a billion dollar contract was made for a survey - aren't you curious to know who was the benefactor of this contract?
Yes, we all are. Shouldn't we, i don't know, stop the contract first? Musk's purview isn't to prosecute, it's simply to find inefficiency then report it to the department head. Musk isn't even responsible for making any cuts. They are sending their findings to the department and the department is then making cuts as necessary.
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What company got this contract? We'll know when the evidence is made available. '
Correct. And the "who is the responsible" will likely not be on the DOGE website. That is for the DOJ. And many of these contracts are likely not even illegal. It was granted via the previous administrations. That's how fricked up our government is. It may be corrupt, but it could still be legal. If a law was broken, i hope ever last one of them ends up in jail, however, i have my doubts of any laws being broken. If some leftists group asks the last administration for $1 billion for a survey, and there is no oversight from the administration or the department ultimately in charge, is that illegal? Probaby not. Is it massive waste and corruption? Absolutely.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 9:47 am to John Barron
Its not waste. Its money laundering.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 9:47 am to Mr Breeze
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ou really believe that no one in Congress Repub or Dem would howl to the moon if the NPS spent 1/3 of their annual budget on a simple 10 question survey. One billion dollars?
You're assuming the government was efficient enough to get that survey done in a year. I bet it took several.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 9:51 am to Mr Breeze
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You really believe that no one in Congress Repub or Dem would howl to the moon if the NPS spent 1/3 of their annual budget on a simple 10 question survey. One billion dollars?
Ultimately, the money goes the department of the interior. NPS is a part of Interior. Seeing how disjointed our government is, i'd say it's probably that this waste wasn't even requested by NPS, and rather requested by some Interior lackey.
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How did the NPS manage to operate while throwing away 1/3 of their annual total budget, and no one noticed it?
See above. When the receipts are posted we may know more. However, don't' expect to see an investigation @ DOGE. That is not their purview. Their duty is to identify waste and inefficiency in our government. They then bring their findings to the department heads with their recommendations. Cuts are ultimately up to the department head. Any investigation is responsibility of the DOJ and Congress.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 9:53 am to AggieHank86
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But you are NOT going to find anything about this $1 billion dollar survey by the NPS, because it does not exist.
How the turn tables. Evidence please?
Posted on 3/28/25 at 10:10 am to BugAC
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Go to the website. Do your own work.
I'm going through the 923 pages of receipts page by page since there's no search function. You'd think the agency charged with being efficient would have a more efficient way for taxpayers to find information on its website.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 10:10 am to NussBusDriver
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How the turn tables. Evidence please?
you want evidence of something that doesn't exist?
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