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re: Elon letting his true feelings known about the Big Beautiful Bill

Posted on 6/3/25 at 2:54 pm to
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 2:54 pm to
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You have SDV and MOT. You’ll be Ok.


For what?
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109737 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 2:56 pm to
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You never see criticism from Catturd or DC Draino of anything.


Those are pretty fringe people and pretty roundly considered so, aren't they?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297390 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 2:58 pm to
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You have SDV and MOT. You’ll be Ok.


For what?


BCreed and JJDoc.

These are your 4 MAGA standard bearers on this board.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297390 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 2:58 pm to
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Those are pretty fringe people and pretty roundly considered so, aren't they?


I wouldnt call people who are quoted several times a week on this board as "fringe."
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62611 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 2:59 pm to
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The BBB is a progressives wet dream.

Bigger
Budget than
Biden
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
59477 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 2:59 pm to
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I think the problem is they don't have a specific plan or a specific goal/set of goals. Trump is big on keeping all options open and then, once the dust settles, claiming that was the REAL plan all along. That's his negotiating style.


Very possible, but also very far from the best way to go about things, imo. Despite his faults, I’ve always given Trump credit for being assertive. Your post paints him as willingly passive, at best.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297390 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:00 pm to


At least they will be able to brag about something.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109737 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:01 pm to
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I wouldnt call people who are quoted several times a week on this board as "fringe."


YOu lean too much on this board as representative of anything.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66881 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:01 pm to
They carry decent weight in the influencer community.

Loomer, to her credit, sounds panic warnings when she seems something she doesn't like.

The problem with DJT is he doesn't really stand for much and is whatever people think he is. This leads to a lot of ducking and dodging over whatever his policies are.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62611 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:01 pm to
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Indeed. This was his bill.
Pushed by his Speaker of the House.

And Trump roasts anyone that opposes it.
This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 3:02 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466944 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:02 pm to
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Very possible, but also very far from the best way to go about things, imo. Despite his faults, I’ve always given Trump credit for being assertive. Your post paints him as willingly passive, at best.

I don't think it's a passive strategy, but it's a self-preserving strategy.

Trump's a dealmaker and he wants to be in the mix, so it's active...he just doesn't want to be constrained to a specific goal.

If you want to see how badly he does with that, look at the disaster that is negotiating a ceasefire in Ukraine.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109737 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:03 pm to
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The problem with DJT is he doesn't really stand for much and is whatever people think he is. This leads to a lot of ducking and dodging over whatever his policies are.


While there is some truth to this, I think it is too simplistic an analysis.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466944 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:03 pm to
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The problem with DJT is he doesn't really stand for much and is whatever people think he is. This leads to a lot of ducking and dodging over whatever his policies are.


#populism
Posted by lotik
Member since Jul 2018
530 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:03 pm to
God forbid people's beliefs change when they get new information.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297390 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:03 pm to
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YOu lean too much on this board as representative of anything


It echoes the words from Trumps mouth.

I just go by what he says and how y'all react.

Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109737 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:04 pm to
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God forbid people's beliefs change when they get new information.


More speaking into the ether I see.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109737 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:05 pm to
You've basically become the poster above you on the level of analysis and understanding what anyone is actually saying.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43977 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:06 pm to
Dude literally adds no substance to the conversation. While I don't always agree with Roger, at least he is arguing a point of view and trying to back it up. STDtiger offers none of this. I'm convinced he's a paid BOT.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466944 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:08 pm to
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STDtiger offers none of this. I'm convinced he's a paid BOT.

Naw. He's just more of a political neophyte who is all in on Trump/MAGA, and when you combine that with not having many specific policy positions, makes his political leanings whatever Trump is doing or whatever helps Trump, more than policy-based analysis.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297390 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:08 pm to
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You've basically become the poster above you


You arent fooling anyone.

MAga to the core. But you rarely are able to carry on a conversation about any topic we discuss.

Whats your attraction to MAGA?
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