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re: Elon and Vivek are right to point out the cultural factors in the visa issue

Posted on 12/29/24 at 5:49 pm to
Posted by Narax
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 5:49 pm to
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I guess Hunter Biden is just unlucky, not a dumbfrick.


Smartest man Joe knows
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 5:50 pm to
It's a proven fact that US companies have discriminated against Americans to hire Indians
Posted by Narax
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 5:51 pm to
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Oh, and the G loaded tests do almost eliminate bias


No I agreed with Gould
Posted by Narax
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 5:51 pm to
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It's a proven fact that US companies have discriminated against Americans to hire Indians


Fully agreed
Posted by Flats
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 5:53 pm to
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Smartest man Joe knows


That's avoidance. Here, I'll remind you of what you said:

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He's successful because he comes from wealth and was sent to an elite HS then pushed into an elite college where he made the connections that turned his wealth to more wealth.


If that's all it takes why didn't that work for Hunter? Why isn't he the equivalent of Vivek, us being all "equal at birth" & stuff?
Posted by Evolved Simian
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 5:55 pm to
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Wealthy black children are part of a culture, a chulture that does not prioritize education.



Jesus fricking Christ. You think black doctors don't emphasize education? You're being intentionally stupid.

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Maybe not in racist circles... It's very popular in India, but that's because they have the caste system and they want to believe it. Willfully Ignorant.


Now you tell us the same fairy tale about men having babies. You saying otherwise doesn't even matter. EVERY legitimate scientist knows that IQ is more genetic than environmental. EVERY rigorous study proves it. It is not debatable.

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I guess quite a few things about you as well.


Obviously. And quite incorrectly, because you're a GenZ lefitst.

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I don't know his IQ, but if he did I would say its because he applied himself more in childhood development if it turned out that I have a higher IQ then I would say the same.

He's successful because he comes from wealth and was sent to an elite HS then pushed into an elite college where he made the connections that turned his wealth to more wealth.

That's life, good for him.


I didn't mention success. I mentioned intelligence. We can never make America great if we tell armless people they can play football or tell low IQ people that they are really smart people who didn't have enoujgh money.

Jesus, it's so fricking stupid to type out. I don't know how you leftists do it with a straight face.
Posted by Evolved Simian
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 5:56 pm to
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If that's all it takes why didn't that work for Hunter? Why isn't he the equivalent of Vivek, us being all "equal at birth" & stuff?


Because every word a DEI leftist says is a lie.
Posted by Evolved Simian
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 5:57 pm to
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It's a proven fact that US companies have discriminated against Americans to hire Indians


Enforce the law.
Posted by Evolved Simian
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 5:59 pm to
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It’s not a fact. Are you telling me your facts (unsourced might I add) show that H1B holders from India have a significantly higher IQ than their comparative group of Americans when looking at their validity to be hired over said Americans?


You don't even know what you are talking about. He said that all Indians were too stupid to come here because of a low average IQ. I pointed out a fact that we don't bring the stupid ones here, and you go on an unrelated rant.

Posted by BuckyCheese
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 6:02 pm to
Someone made the claim that IQ is a product of environment.

Explain JD Vance with that in mind.
Posted by Lightning
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 6:03 pm to
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H1B Indians have a much higher IQ than Americans on average. It's not even debatable. Literal fricking Stanford and Georgia Tech grads.

You lumping in gas station owners because you're too stupid to understand the issue puts you squarely in the group of Americans who are jealous because they are too stupid to compete.


You don’t get to compare H-1B Indians to ALL Americans (including the dropouts and degenerates) to make your point, while conveniently excluding Indian gas station owners.

We’re either comparing H-1B Indians to college-educated white collar Americans or we’re comparing ALL Indians to ALL Americans.
Posted by Narax
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 6:03 pm to
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That's avoidance. Here, I'll remind you of what you said:


It's not, it's just comedy.

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If that's all it takes why didn't that work for Hunter? Why isn't he the equivalent of Vivek, us being all "equal at birth" & stuff?


We are all human clay, all babies are bad at everything.

The human brain can develop or it can develop not well.

Hunter did rather well ironically he got into drugs and broke down.

He was more evil than low IQ
Posted by Evolved Simian
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 6:04 pm to
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No I agreed with Gould


Obviously.

You're entitled to an opinion, but the preponderance of rigorous intelligence study is that genetics make up the significant portion of IQ determination.

Not all brains are capable of developing at the same rate, no matter how much money you give them. Same with bodies.

Posted by Evolved Simian
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 6:05 pm to
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Someone made the claim that IQ is a product of environment.



He's one of yours. You explain it.
Posted by Flats
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 6:06 pm to
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Hunter did rather well ironically he got into drugs and broke down.



He wasn't intelligent enough to avoid a drug addiction?

He's exactly what I would expect out of a father with a mediocre (at best) IQ. Educated way above where he would have been with a different last name and it still wasn't enough.

Your claim is absolute nonsense. Do you not know any families that raised multiple children the exact same way with wildly disparate outcomes?
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 6:08 pm to
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He's one of yours. You explain it.



Ah yes, keep up the Ultra-dickhead act.

IQ is genetics and nothing else. Which side am I on again?
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 6:09 pm to
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Someone made the claim that IQ is a product of environment.

Explain JD Vance with that in mind.


Watch Hillbilly elegy.

His mother did very well in school and worked with him from a young age.

Then his grandmother got his butt in gear.

He's Brilliant, his wife is Brilliant.

Their kids will be a product of their upbringing.
Posted by Lord of the Hogs
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 6:09 pm to
It’s right wing critical race theory, without the Marxism.
Posted by Wolfwireless
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 6:09 pm to
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And we attack college education for Americans while importing people from abroad solely because they are college educated.


We attack college because they've turned their main goal into being to pump out as many good little social justice warrior NPCs as possible.

Why is this country suffering from a lack of skilled and upper skilled candidates? Because the schools teach them to take jobs where they do very little work, make middle to upper middle wage income, and all they have to do to earn it is spread the woke plague.

And the schools teach them not to think for themselves. Hivemind hampers creativity. No creativity, no constructive thinking. No constructive thinking... Well no upper tech ability there.
Posted by Evolved Simian
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 6:10 pm to
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You don’t get to compare H-1B Indians to ALL Americans (including the dropouts and degenerates) to make your point, while conveniently excluding Indian gas station owners.



Why don't I get to make the same hyperbolically stupid comment he did? It's factually true, right? So are you saying it only matters that I did it?

I guess that's a bit fair. I shouldn't abide the stupid people, but we've got one in here now that thinks intelligence isn't genetic.

THOSE are the guys that built the modren democratic party, and they're hilarious until you give them a little power, then they promote on identity rather than merit and collapse the whole goddamn system. Kind of like the people that want to kill H1B completely.
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