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re: Elite Army Athlete Dies After Emergency Surgery For Blood Clots…

Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:09 am to
Posted by Hognutz
Member since Sep 2018
2570 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:09 am to
That's how we got those covid death numbers in 2020 huh...sure, doc.
Posted by Unclejimbo83
Member since Jan 2024
129 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:11 am to
Okay people move along now nothing to see here
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52002 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:22 am to
I love the way you vaccine yo-yos, who were all in on a vaccine induced holocaust, have divided into two camps - one has moved on and disassociated with the looniness, and the other, like the OP, is still scrounging around every obituary looking for possible ammunition. You remind me Mrs. Haversham, still in her wedding dress 25 years after being left at the altar.
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
6292 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:24 am to
No, before 2020, many world class super fit young athletes dropped dead suddenly or from numerous blood clots in their systems. It was super common. Not sure what everyone is getting riled up about.
This post was edited on 1/12/24 at 9:29 am
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:25 am to
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
6292 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:26 am to
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It's been a dry spell for the clot shot gang. People were supposed to be falling dead in droves by now.


They are. Just because your precious CNN brought to you by Pfizer doesn't tell you about it, does not mean it's not happening.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39158 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:30 am to
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Is that what the numbers show? Pre and post-vax myocarditis frequency is pretty much the same?



What? Viral myocarditis, regardless of pathogen origin (parvovirus B19, coxsackie B, HH-6, EBV and many others including COVID can cause myocarditis), is the most common etiology of myocarditis.

The incidence with CV19 infection is 100 times greater than with mRNA vaccination.
This post was edited on 1/12/24 at 10:32 am
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39158 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:31 am to
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That's how we got those covid death numbers in 2020 huh...sure, doc.



What? Again, you don't appear to understand that viral myocarditis includes several infectious agents.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26892 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:38 am to
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What? Viral myocarditis, regardless of pathogen origin (parvovirus B19, coxsackie B, HH-6, EBV and many others including COVID can cause myocarditis), is the most common etiology of myocarditis.


You can just say "cause". We get it, you know medical terms, but you're not presenting at a conference.

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The incidence with CV19 infection is 100 times greater than with mRNA vaccination.

With so many people vaccinated how do they tease out those numbers?

These are honest questions, BTW. I'm an SME in a few areas; this isn't one of them. Sifting through the bullshite is fairly difficult for laymen, and SMEs have been shown to be untrustworthy.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23401 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 11:10 am to
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The risk factors for are evidence-based and are based on mainly three factors.


And without knowing the full medical history of the deceased, we don’t know what pathological, environmental or genetic factors may have contributed to the formation of these blood clots.

What do know is that she was young and fit.

It thus seems a fair assumption to rule out obesity and age-related degenerative issues as a contributing factor to the formation of the blood-clots.

It likewise seems logical to rule out a sedentary lifestyle as a contributing factor to the development of the blood-clots since she without doubt was in excellent aerobic condition.

It indeed seems that we can reasonably conclude that she had been medically screened for cardio-respiratory issues since she was both in the Army and a top athlete.

Considering all these reasonable anecdotal assumptions, it therefore seems sensible to assume that some other factor contributed to her malady.

Perhaps she had a genetic predisposition for blood-clots?

And perhaps a contributing factor to the development of the blood-clots was the MRNA vaccine?

Again, no amount of gaslighting by you changes the reality that it is a very sensible question to ask if her death was perhaps related to these junk vaccines since we can reasonably assume she was indeed vaccinated and myocarditis is a known side affect of these vaccines.





This post was edited on 1/12/24 at 11:15 am
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39158 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 11:29 am to
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And without knowing the full medical history of the deceased, we don’t know what pathological, environmental or genetic factors may have contributed to the formation of these blood clots.


You should have stopped right there.

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Considering all these reasonable anecdotal assumptions, it therefore seems sensible to assume that some other factor contributed to her malady.

Perhaps she had a genetic predisposition for blood-clots?

And perhaps a contributing factor to the development of the blood-clots was the MRNA vaccine?


Well in the order of assumptions, vaccine-related causes would be far, far, far down the list in any possible work-up.

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Again, no amount of gaslighting by you changes the reality that it is a very sensible question to ask if her death was perhaps


And if it wasn't, what then? You only want to use her death in order to further your own cause. You'll retreat to some insane position, backed by nothing but your emotions about the event and no amount of discussion about pathophysiology or risk factors can ever inform you.
Posted by Hognutz
Member since Sep 2018
2570 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 11:36 am to
My point is simple- if you'll recall EVERYTHING in 2020 was assumed a covid death until shown otherwise. Did you forget that? That is how they scared the sht outta everyone, atleast the gullible.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39158 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:03 pm to
No idea what your point has to do with mine. Unless it is your excuse to disbelieve all data, which is nonsensical.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
7895 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:24 pm to
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It's been a dry spell for the clot shot gang. People were supposed to be falling dead in droves by now.


Posting has dropped off...people dropping off is increasing. I've seen at least 10 articles that could apply but why post for discussion when you are here to disavow.

I hope you find it interesting that the shot has zero known efficacy yet the known ramifications can be fatal including blood clots and known heart issues including myocarditis, atrial fibrillation and others.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23401 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:49 pm to
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You should have stopped right there.


Hello, Pot, I’m Kettle — pleased to make your acquaintance!



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Well in the order of assumptions, vaccine-related causes would be far, far, far down the list in any possible work-up.


Not by any doctor who is not beholden — wittingly or not — to our nation’s medical/pharmaceutical industrial complex.

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You'll retreat to some insane position, backed by nothing but your emotions about the event and no amount of discussion about pathophysiology or risk factors can ever inform you.


I suppose it works itself out in the wash since you will continue to refuse to acknowledge that our nation’s public health apparatus continues to the downplay the reality that the long-term side affects of this experimental MRNA “vaccine” technology — which was engineered to alter our cells to produce toxic spike proteins — are still unknown.


Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39158 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 3:49 pm to
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Not by any doctor who is not beholden — wittingly or not — to our nation’s medical/pharmaceutical industrial complex


Lol. What are the signs and symptoms of vaccine related VTE's? What does the pathology show? What injury pattern should we look for to determine the etiology specifically?

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I suppose it works itself out in the wash since you will continue to refuse to acknowledge that our nation’s public health apparatus continues to the downplay the reality that the long-term side affects of this experimental MRNA “vaccine” technology — which was engineered to alter our cells to produce toxic spike proteins — are still unknown


Lol. You should stop talking about anything medicine related. This is clown level posting.
Posted by Hognutz
Member since Sep 2018
2570 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 3:50 pm to
The bigger point- I don't trust pharma salesmen.
This post was edited on 1/12/24 at 3:51 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39158 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:03 pm to
Cool.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:09 pm to
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This is clown level posting.


Aren't you the dumbazz who ADMITTED to being a shitposter?



Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:11 pm to
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The bigger point- I don't trust pharma salesmen.


You shouldn't.

Crazy4LSU admitted to being a shitposter.

He's a liar who will simp for Big Pharma until the end.

I hope he never actually becomes a Doctor in real life.
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