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Eli Lilly pauses trial of antibody drug Trump touted as COVID-19 'cure' over safety concer

Posted on 10/13/20 at 5:50 pm
Posted by DougsMugs
Georgia
Member since Aug 2019
8239 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 5:50 pm
Just some anti-Trumper instigating? Drove down the market today.

"(Reuters) - Eli Lilly and Co ( LLY ) said on Tuesday that the government-sponsored clinical trial of its COVID-19 antibody treatment similar to one taken by U.S. President Donald Trump has been paused because of a safety concern.

Trump touted the Lilly drug, along with the antibody treatment from Regeneron Pharmaceuticals Inc that he received for his COVID-19, as tantamount to a cure in a video he posted last week.

The announcement comes one day after Johnson & Johnson said it was forced to pause a large high-profile trial of its experimental coronavirus vaccine because a volunteer fell ill. J&J said it does not yet know if that person was given the vaccine or a placebo."

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https://www.metro.us/eli-lilly-pauses-trial/
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98883 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 5:52 pm to
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similar to one taken by U.S. President Donald Trump


So...not the one he took.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17484 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 5:53 pm to
He didn't take any Lilly vaccine.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80161 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 5:53 pm to
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J&J said it does not yet know if that person was given the vaccine or a placebo."



So you stop a trial before knowing if the illness MAY even be due to the actual medication.

Jesus Christ
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34784 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 5:54 pm to
Liberals will celebrate this news
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12515 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 5:54 pm to
I don’t care about any of them because I am not getting the shots . It would help with the crazies fell better.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
22185 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 5:55 pm to
Just like last time, this isn't a big deal, it's part of the process.
Posted by LetsgoGamecocks
Member since Sep 2014
2916 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 5:56 pm to
Pausing until after election, how convenient.
Posted by Shamwow
Member since Oct 2019
700 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 5:56 pm to
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Liberals have created this news


FIFY
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 5:57 pm to
They pause if ONE person has an issue, even if it is not related to the drug. That is the problem with our system.
Posted by DougsMugs
Georgia
Member since Aug 2019
8239 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 7:20 pm to
Can you imagine the insider trading that could happen with these clowns?

Hey, we are going to pause the trial and announce it at 3:3o. You might want to sell some stocks... doesn't really matter what in because the whole market will go down.

Posted by Huck Finn
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2009
2458 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 7:28 pm to
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They pause if ONE person has an issue, even if it is not related to the drug.


That's like apologizing just in case someone may be offended, whether or not you talked.
Is this a Canadian company?
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 7:37 pm to
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They pause if ONE person has an issue, even if it is not related to the drug. That is the problem with our system.


They pause it to figure that out. It’s part of the process. It’ll likely resume very shortly.

And this isn’t for the vaccine. This is for the monoclonal antibody treatment. Trump had a similar one from Regneron. He has publicly touted both.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
25044 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 7:39 pm to
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J&J said it does not yet know if that person was given the vaccine or a placebo."
W.T.F. How do you not know this??? Of course its the placebo. The antibody drug works
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12074 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 7:40 pm to
Because we all know Biden would have made this company’s drug ready fast, am I right you guise??


Derpity derp
Posted by shell01
Marianna, FL
Member since Jul 2014
793 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 9:56 pm to
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So you stop a trial before knowing if the illness MAY even be due to the actual medication.


Yes.

There are 1000 people a day receiving this experimental drug. Neither the doctors, the patients, nor the drug company know who is receiving active drug and who is receiving the placebo. There's a list of "anticipated" side effects (also called Adverse Events), fever, muscle aches, lethargy for example, that are recorded but aren't going to raise a red flag. There may also be a list of side effects that will immediately stop the trial. This might be any Serious Adverse Event (by definition those are life threatening, require hospitalization, or result in death) or a subset...I don't have this particular protocol on hand so won't speak to the specifics.

Anywho...if one of these triggers are reported, everything stops until the independent Data Safety Monitoring Board (DSMB) is able to review all available data in an unblinded fashion. This takes a couple of days because the site (the doctor or hospital) has to of course first treat the patient, record everything about the case in the study database and likely have telephone or email conversations with the medical monitor of the study. That information is provided to the DSMB along with aggregate data to date to allow them to make a decision as to whether or not it is reasonable to proceed as-is, or with modifications to the protocol. Perhaps with additional safety monitoring, or further restricting the patients allowed to enroll (maybe it was a heart issue so now you need to exclude patients with pre-existing heart disease, as an example.)

This is how research works pandemic or no pandemic. If all is well, it is only setting the study back by a matter of days. If there IS a problem, it saves innocent volunteers' lives.
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