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DU Melt of the Day: "It's Obama's Economy, Stupid!"
Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:45 pm
But those jobs aren't coming back!
"What?, Does he have a magic wand?"
Abracadabra
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Why am I not seeing every single Dem giving credit to Obama and the American people on the economy every time it is brought up? I just saw on CNN that people are giving Trump 56% approval on his "handling of the economy." (Please. That's a push poll, most likely accidental, but a push poll. The question itself implies that Trump should get credit for the economy.)
We need to dispute that Trump deserves any credit–not question it, dispute it with complete self-assurance. We need to make it seem churlish, grasping, and arrogantly credit-grabbing for Trump to even suggest that he deserves any credit for Obama's economy. We shouldn't say, "Trump is 'forgetting' to credit Obama" or other forms of weak tea. We should say "It's Obama and the American people's economy. Trump can take credit for the weak-to-nonexistent gains in coal, steel, auto manufacturing, and the deep losses to rural communities thanks to his trade wars."
"What?, Does he have a magic wand?"
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Currently, I'm seeing some of our folks trying to "pivot" on the question of the economy by saying un-useful things such as, "Americans are interested in issues other than the economy, like immigration, healthcare..." and so forth. That's not good; that's bad. Sure, by all means, pivot. But start with, "It's Obama's and the American People's economy, not Trump's. Trump's just putting his name on something he didn't have anything to do with again."
Abracadabra
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Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:45 pm to Sticky37
Truth, this one could be starting too accept it.
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Sadly, that's not the case.
His approval ratings on the economy are in the 50s, with a 54% average.
That can't all be Trump's base, because there aren't enough of them.
Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:47 pm to Sticky37
Hmmm, I think this guy is about to get banned. They don't like the truth over at that site.
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Nah, it's an accurate statement.
It's difficult to convince people that this is just a continuation of Obama's economy a couple years into Trump's term. The polls show that pretty clearly.
Trump's approval ratings on the economy are in the mid 50s. That's more than just his base. People are buying that he's responsible, and that's a problem.
Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:48 pm to Sticky37
But that's just defeatist thinking! tRump didn't build that!
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Hehe (again). Nah, it's way, way, way wrong.
The case is very, very strong that Trump doesn't deserve credit. We need to make the case and make it very strongly. It's the truth. What's the alternative? Let Trump take all of the credit for something he doesn't deserve to take credit for?
That's just silly. That's the difficult thing to do in my opinion. Live in silly defeatism when we can act for truth.
Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:49 pm to Sticky37
More realism from the soon too be banned.
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We can ignore reality, but that doesn't make it any less real. People give him credit - a solid majority - and it's going to be something we'll have to deal with for 2020.
It's not defeatism. It's realism. The alternative is intentional ignorance.
Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:50 pm to Sticky37
But tRump is SUPER DUPER not responsible for the good economy!
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Trump is super, super doubtable now.
Simply dispute Trump's claim and do it knowing that his claim is wrong. It is. Dispute Trump's erroneous claim repeatedly. Will it change people's minds? Yes, it will. Will it "convince" them? Not really. But will it cause them to doubt Trump (which is the whole point)? Yes, it will. Trump is super, super doubtable now. People will start to associate his claims on the economy with his tendency to be a bloviating liar.
Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:52 pm to Sticky37
Clever spin, but no one's buying it. They laughed out loud when Juan Williams tried to pitch it on "The Five".
Almost sounds like one of Slick Willie Clinton's slogans. LOL
Almost sounds like one of Slick Willie Clinton's slogans. LOL
This post was edited on 5/4/19 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:52 pm to Sticky37
This very well may be the most sane thought that I have seen posted on that shitehole website.
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Which one are we doing? "It's Obama's economy" or "the economy isn't as good as they're saying"
We should only do one or the other, not both.
Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:52 pm to Sticky37
I don't know how to characterize them other than simply pathetic.
Their hate has caused them to lose their minds.
Keep in mind that those people hate us with all their hearts.
Never relent on 2A. Never.
Their hate has caused them to lose their minds.
Keep in mind that those people hate us with all their hearts.
Never relent on 2A. Never.
This post was edited on 5/5/19 at 8:27 am
Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:52 pm to Sticky37
Literally last January 2018, all these fricking assholes abandoned taking credit to Obama because they thought the economy was faltering.
Now, they want credit again?
ROFLMAO
I fricking called it last January because I knew they were jumping the gun.
Dumb asses
Now, they want credit again?
ROFLMAO
I fricking called it last January because I knew they were jumping the gun.
Dumb asses
Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:53 pm to Sticky37
Note how they never really address any policy or fundamental beliefs in their arguments. It's all about personality and propaganda.
Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:54 pm to Sticky37
Hahahahahahabba! But the good things belong to Obama, tRump is responsible for all the bad things. Get with the program comrade!
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Do both. Of course.
The good parts, the GDP, employment, and stock market trends are Obama's and the American People's. Those trends began with Obama and have tracked exactly as they tracked under Obama. The bad parts are Trump's and are Trump's broken promises to boot. That includes the "Carrier" jobs, coal jobs, steel jobs, and auto manufacturing jobs. That includes the huge losses to farmers and their surrounding rural communities.
A huge number of the very people who voted for Trump can't answer yes the question "are you better off?" For them, Trump's crowing about the economy should be nothing less than an insult.
Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:55 pm to Sticky37
The Jug Ears economy was several rounds of quantitative easing to prop up the stock market.
Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:55 pm to Sticky37
It's amazing they're still sucking this guy's cock 10 years later.
Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:56 pm to Sticky37
One last gem of truth, you wouldn't be giving Obama the credit for the economy if the economy was actually doing bad.
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you wouldn't say that if the economy was bad
Unfortunately, we can’t dismiss the fact that trump managed to not screw up the economy. Most surprisingy, unemployment rates are extremely low.
Posted on 5/4/19 at 5:10 pm to Sticky37
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It's Obama's Economy, Stupid!"P
It's those deranged fools who are stupid.
1) Obama was anti-Energy
2) Obama did not cut regulations
3) Obama did not reduce taxes
4) Obama did not fight AGAINST bad trade deals
5) Obama did not fight FOR better trade deals
6) Obama never used tariffs or the threat of tariffs
7) Obama wanted to KILL the coal mining industry
8) Obama said Manufacturing jobs were NEVER coming back
9) Obama had 0% interest rates and it didn't help
10) Obama had QE and it didn't help
Other than that, yeah, the anti-American, race-baiting community agitator is 100% responsible for the economy we have ALMOST 2.5 YEARS AFTER HE CARRIED HIS SORRY arse OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE.
EDIT - I should probably go over there and create an account just so I could post this. They would just take it down and ban me, though.
This post was edited on 5/4/19 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 5/4/19 at 5:25 pm to Sticky37
It is perfectly logical the the first 8 years of Obama's shite economy was Bush's fault and the first 2 years of Trumps healthy economy are due to Obama moves during the 1st 8 years of Obama's shite economy that were Bush fault.
The math adds up!
The math adds up!
Posted on 5/4/19 at 5:27 pm to Sticky37
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It's Obama's Economy, Stupid
Anytime anyone says that, remind them how Barry said the economy couldn't just be easily fixed and that certain jobs are never coming back. Now that both of those things are happening, the left AND even Obama himself are taking credit (and hoping no one remembers he said it was impossible).
I mean which is it? Were you wrong and Trump fixed it, or were you lying for some reason and knew that 2 years after you left office the impossible would happen?
Posted on 5/4/19 at 6:04 pm to Sticky37
Where are they differentiating between Obama and Trump? What standards and metrics are they using? Clearly it’s nothing more than arbitrary wishful thinking.
Posted on 5/4/19 at 6:09 pm to Sticky37
Damn
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