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re: Don’t you hate it when you kneel so hard you die?

Posted on 8/17/19 at 7:20 am to
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98515 posts
Posted on 8/17/19 at 7:20 am to
Anyone who buys that Epstein did this without assistance is deluding themselves.

There was at least one other actor involved in this "suicide".
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48272 posts
Posted on 8/17/19 at 8:25 am to
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Well I too have been mulling over scenarios that could defeat the body's instinct to live. That was simplest of them - don't know it it could work tho.


CASE CLOSED!

Move on, people. The Government told you what happened. Don't be a Conspiracy Nut or Anti-Good Agitator.

Did you hear that Katy Perry kissed a girl?
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16716 posts
Posted on 8/17/19 at 8:32 am to
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abdominal cultists abominable?

or a gastronomical spirit cooking reference?


No. These are cultists who are obsessed with abs and do like 1,000 crunches a day.
This post was edited on 8/17/19 at 8:33 am
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90508 posts
Posted on 8/17/19 at 9:12 am to
It takes a lot of force to break your neck. No way that did it. I’ve played football and speared some people many times and been in a major car accident with severe whiplash and I know all of those were more force on my spine than leaning forward with a sheet tied on my neck would be
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32213 posts
Posted on 8/17/19 at 9:22 am to
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The hyoid bone is not difficult to break.


Interesting fact about the hyoid bone. It's unique in that it's the only bone in the body that does not articulate with any other bone. It is a very thin bone which would make it easy to break but since it is surrounded by soft tissue, I would think that would offset the thinness. Not sure I would classify that as "not difficult".
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12812 posts
Posted on 8/17/19 at 10:25 am to
I’m going to be more careful about leaning against anything from here on out.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12812 posts
Posted on 8/17/19 at 10:26 am to
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Interesting fact about the hyoid bone. It's unique in that it's the only bone in the body that does not articulate with any other bone. It is a very thin bone which would make it easy to break but since it is surrounded by soft tissue, I would think that would offset the thinness. Not sure I would classify that as "not difficult".


He also fractured a vertebrae.
This post was edited on 8/17/19 at 10:27 am
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 8/17/19 at 10:28 am to
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Well I too have been mulling over scenarios that could defeat the body's instinct to live. That was simplest of them - don't know it it could work tho.


Kneeling to suffocate/hang yourself is not an unusual method. There are examples online but.. don't
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12812 posts
Posted on 8/17/19 at 10:30 am to
If this LINK doesn’t break your neck then I find it hard to believe leaning does.
Posted by TennesseeFan25
Honolulu
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 8/17/19 at 11:58 am to
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If this LINK doesn’t break your neck then I find it hard to believe leaning does


That was rough, but this is the pinnacle of neck breaking. LINK
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
13922 posts
Posted on 8/17/19 at 3:50 pm to
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 8/17/19 at 3:51 pm to
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He tied the bed sheet around his neck. Then he jumped HIGH into the air and pulled his legs up so that the whole force of his weight went to his neck.

Yeah. That's the ticket!




Evidently his previous life as a Circus high wire performer paid off
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26683 posts
Posted on 8/17/19 at 3:53 pm to
The fact that he had sheets and a bunk bed is ridiculous
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
29926 posts
Posted on 8/17/19 at 4:21 pm to
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Interesting fact about the hyoid bone. It's unique in that it's the only bone in the body that does not articulate with any other bone. It is a very thin bone which would make it easy to break but since it is surrounded by soft tissue, I would think that would offset the thinness. Not sure I would classify that as "not difficult".


He also fractured a vertebrae.

Id like to see some more official info about the hyoid "break" as well as vertebrae fracture, such as extent/severity of each and ideally an estimate as to age of each fracture/break.

Carrying about your life with a fractured vertebrae is not that uncommon, and from what I've read one can do same (albeit uncomfortably) with a *fractured* hyoid. In the event the hyoid was deemed fractured and wasn't so significant that carrying on in a somewhat limited way was possible, then I can see the argument coming back in play that the original alleged suicide attempt was a strangling attack by the cellmate at the time, and fracture(s) acquired then.

Or if the fracture/break of hyoid wasnt the aforementioned significant case, the trauma of the suicide method opined by med examiner perhaps being more possible. Again, further info as to severity being very enlightening.
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