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re: Donald J Trump wants the best for AMERICA
Posted on 9/12/23 at 8:47 am to TheBoo
Posted on 9/12/23 at 8:47 am to TheBoo
Why don't you figure out who Chuck Canterbury is before you accuse other people of not knowing what they are talking about.
Do you agree with "take the guns first, due process later"?
You like fake second amendment coalitions?
You like suppressors? Trump doesn't. He said so, bluntly.
If a bump stock is a novelty, why ban it?
Trump also started the brace ban that is turning legal gun owners into felons, you approve of that?
The bottom line is, are you able to overcome your heartfelt love and face facts? Nope, none of the cult is capable of that.
Do you agree with "take the guns first, due process later"?
You like fake second amendment coalitions?
You like suppressors? Trump doesn't. He said so, bluntly.
If a bump stock is a novelty, why ban it?
Trump also started the brace ban that is turning legal gun owners into felons, you approve of that?
The bottom line is, are you able to overcome your heartfelt love and face facts? Nope, none of the cult is capable of that.
This post was edited on 9/12/23 at 8:48 am
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Posted on 9/12/23 at 8:52 am to cusoonkpd
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vote 3rd party, or not vote. There are many like me. I am tired of this current system.
That'll show em, Patriot.
You have been part of the problem.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 8:52 am to Flats
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So anything that's presented to you is going to be dismissed like you dismiss the bump stock ban. Why try? He has plenty of quotes out there; he's not a big 2nd amendment guy.
Absolutely not. I've seen people get hung up on the bump stock thing and treat it as if semi automatic rifles are banned. Normally I'm pretty consistent in your train of thought, but I didn't even know what a bump stock was until the Vegas shooting and the restrictions placed on it.
If he has many quotes then please provide some. That's what I'm asking for. You may actually change my mind.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 8:57 am to TheBoo
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I've seen people get hung up on the bump stock thing and treat it as if semi automatic rifles are banned.
Or maybe they treat it the same way I do; as an indicator of what he'll do when he's influenced by public opinion and the next school shooting happens with a scary black rifle.
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If he has many quotes then please provide some.
They get repeated every time Trump and gun control are mentioned. I don't have them catalogued but someone will be along shortly to share them. The "due process" one has already been provided in this thread.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 9:04 am to RifleDriver
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Why don't you figure out who Chuck Canterbury is before you accuse other people of not knowing what they are talking about.
I'm not accusing anyone of not knowing what they are talking about, I'm asking you to show me how Trump has been a gun grabber outside of his ATF appointment.
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Do you agree with "take the guns first, due process later"?
You like fake second amendment coalitions?
No, is that Chuck or Trump?
quote:He and I would disagree here. It's unconstitutional that you have to pay a tax and get a permit to own a piece of PPE for your gun.
You like suppressors? Trump doesn't. He said so, bluntly.
quote:Great question, to shup up the left? Not sure. I own many guns and that didn't strike me as infringing on the second amendment.
If a bump stock is a novelty, why ban it?
quote:You sure about that? Please provide some evidence of this.
Trump also started the brace ban that is turning legal gun owners into felons, you approve of that?
quote:You think this is going to help further a discussion?
The bottom line is, are you able to overcome your heartfelt love and face facts? Nope, none of the cult is capable of that.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 9:06 am to KiwiHead
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He's a dicktripper which means he's irresponsibile and overall undisciplined. If you cannot see that as a problem then you deserve all of the frustration he will foist upon you.
Why don't you worry about your own country as it seems to be controlled by fascists?
Posted on 9/12/23 at 9:08 am to RifleDriver
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The excuses his cult makes for him - that he is easily fooled into making horrible cabinet picks does not explain his choice of CHUCK CANTERBURY to lead the ATF.
Gun Owners of America and all other 2A groups, including the usually-worthless NRA told Trump not to nominate Canterbury who backs semi-auto bans and red flag laws.
Trump nominated him anyway.
The RINOs in the senate balked. They would not confirm Canterbury. Even little Lindsey Graham said no way, this guy is ANTI GUN.
They convinced Trump to pul the nomination.
Trump did AND THEN RE-NOMINATED the gun grabbing POS to run the ATF.
He then only pulled that nomination in March 2020 so as not to hurt his campaign.
Yet another example of Trump being a Manchurian Candidate.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 9:08 am to BuckyCheese
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Does it include banging strippers while your second trophy wife is knocked up?
And there it is... Right there... The man could cure Cancer, provide world peace and this would still be their reasoning...
Not logic and what is best for the Country or it's people, But an emotion...
Posted on 9/12/23 at 9:09 am to RifleDriver
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Or you can sit there like a over-emotional brainless idiot calling people names.
It's what they do.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 9:10 am to TheBoo
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You sure about that? Please provide some evidence of this.
The Trump administration came up with the ban then pulled it when they got pushback from congress. Which, again, is an example of him not really caring about the issue. One of his shitty appointees probably proposed it, he approved it without having a clue what it was, then pulled it when he found out it might make him look bad. That's not a guy with firm 2nd Amendment principles.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/dec/30/stabilizing-brace-ban-pulled-trump-administration-/
Posted on 9/12/23 at 9:12 am to TheBoo
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If he has many quotes then please provide some. That's what I'm asking for. You may actually change my mind.
"I like taking guns away early. Take the guns first, go through due process second."-Donald J. Trump
It's right in my sig.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 9:12 am to BuckyCheese
quote:I think we have just seen who the Tasmanian Devil "Canterbury, Canterbury" cartoon character is
BuckyCheese
Because if anyone is that unstable and that supportive of communists and anti-American it is this BuckyCheese character
This post was edited on 9/12/23 at 9:13 am
Posted on 9/12/23 at 9:20 am to TheBoo
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I'm not accusing anyone of not knowing what they are talking about, I'm asking you to show me how Trump has been a gun grabber outside of his ATF appointment.
You mean outside of nominating a gun grabber who every 2A group screamed about and RINOs rejected? You're just dismissing this?
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No, is that Chuck or Trump?
Trump. It was elaborate, and a complete lie.
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He and I would disagree here. It's unconstitutional that you have to pay a tax and get a permit to own a piece of PPE for your gun.
Trump does not like them at all and probably could not tell you why except because its his nature.
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Great question, to shup up the left? Not sure. I own many guns and that didn't strike me as infringing on the second amendment.
I thought he was there to fight for us? Is he that weak? Sure, set a precedent and open the door for brace bans, ghost gun bans, etc. Brilliant.
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You sure about that? Please provide some evidence of this.
It was given in testimony by an ATF agent in congress that the brace ban started under Trump. Look it up.
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You think this is going to help further a discussion?
If the shoe fits wear it, if not, let it roll off your back.
The first reply to my first post attacked me and provided zero substance. I don't care. Trump is a gun grabber and that was my point
Posted on 9/12/23 at 9:20 am to Flats
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The Trump administration came up with the ban then pulled it when they got pushback from congress. Which, again, is an example of him not really caring about the issue. One of his shitty appointees probably proposed it, he approved it without having a clue what it was, then pulled it when he found out it might make him look bad. That's not a guy with firm 2nd Amendment principles.
I can agree that one of his weaknesses is underestimating the depth of the swamp around him and trusting the wrong people, sure. I think this is exactly what happened. He's not perfect, but surely you can understand my support will lie with someone who's trying to do the right thing by us and may make mistakes vs someone or some people trying to intentionally impose government control on us.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 9:23 am to BuckyCheese
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"I like taking guns away early. Take the guns first, go through due process second."-Donald J. Trump
It's right in my sig
Sure, he and I disconnect with that quote, but take a look at his entire history of comments and actions on second amendment rights and gun control, both through casual comments and official statements / speeches, and tell me where you land.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 9:25 am to TheBoo
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and may make mistakes
That’s the problem; it wasn’t a mistake, it’s how he’s treated the issue in the past and how he’ll treat it in the future. He’s going to stick his finger in the air, because it’s just not a big deal to him.
Is he better than someone like Biden on the 2nd? Sure. But you asked for evidence that he wasn’t a big supporter of it, and there’s plenty. Do with that what you will.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 9:26 am to TheBoo
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I can agree that one of his weaknesses is underestimating the depth of the swamp around him and trusting the wrong people, sure. I think this is exactly what happened. He's not perfect, but surely you can understand my support will lie with someone who's trying to do the right thing by us and may make mistakes vs someone or some people trying to intentionally impose government control on us.
Sorry. That does not explain Chuck Canterbury. He knew exactly who Canterbury was because everyone is on record telling him exactly who Chuck was.
So.... Trump RE-NOMINATED him.
If by some miracle Trump gets elected, he will stab gun owners in the back.
By the way, Bill Barr WROTE the original 1994 assault weapons ban. Trump hired the daddy-bush anti-gun CIA AG.
This post was edited on 9/12/23 at 9:30 am
Posted on 9/12/23 at 9:26 am to BuckyCheese
quote:There is only one over-emotional brainless idiot here - and he is in your corner
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Or you can sit there like a over-emotional brainless idiot calling people names.
It's what they do.
interestingly, almost word for word
Posted on 9/12/23 at 9:28 am to JJJimmyJimJames
From a pragmatic view, there is only one choice for Americans today.
That is what this post was about until BuckyCheese and his little tasmanian friend showed up
That is what this post was about until BuckyCheese and his little tasmanian friend showed up
Posted on 9/12/23 at 9:31 am to JJJimmyJimJames
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There is only one over-emotional brainless idiot here - and he is in your corner
interestingly, almost word for word
Why don't you stop with the little baby attacks on the messenger and explain Chuck Canterbury?
The reason is because you can't.
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