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re: Dollar General Employee Charged With Manslaughter After Killing Armed Robber in LA
Posted on 1/9/23 at 4:17 pm to L.A.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 4:17 pm to L.A.
quote:Free advice, if you want it to stick?
I get that. I'm just saying that if I'm on the jury, I'm taking that into consideration. If they don't want me on the jury because I'm going to take that into consideration, then so be it.
In my non-lawyer mind it's kind of like the "fighting words" doctrine regarding the 1st Amendment. The fighting words doctrine allows government to limit speech when it is likely to incite immediate violence or retaliation by the recipients of the words.
I'm not making a legal analogy here, but rather a psychological one. The guy probably had some level of PTSD from 6 robberies in 5 months. He may have just said to himself, frick it, enough is enough
I know that's not the law, or at least I assume it's not. But if I'm on that jury, that's going to go into my thinking as I cast my vote
If you ever find yourself on such a jury, do NOT explain your thinking to the other jurors and create a record for a prosecutor to claim "jury misconduct."
Just quietly vote as you think best.
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Posted on 1/9/23 at 4:19 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
Free advice, if you want it to stick?
If you ever find yourself on such a jury, do NOT explain your thinking to the other jurors and create a record for a prosecutor to claim "jury misconduct."
Just quietly vote as you think best.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 4:36 pm to jclem11
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Depends on state law in regards to self defense.
No it doesn't. What I said has nothing to do with the law.
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In general you are only legally allowed to use proportionate force; you are not legally permitted to execute people in the streets.
I don't care what the law says. Better to be judged by 12 than to be carried by 6.
This post was edited on 1/9/23 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 1/9/23 at 4:39 pm to imjustafatkid
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Shooting the perp is the only way to guarantee the threat is neutralized.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 4:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If you are ever in a position to rely on self defense, it's not a good idea to shoot the aggressor in the back while he/she flees.
Yell “HEY!!!” and shoot them as they turn towards you.
Note: that is a joke and not an actual suggestion. Do not take legal advice from a sarcastic a-hole on the internet.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 5:11 pm to imjustafatkid
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I don't care what the law says. Better to be judged by 12 than to be carried by 6.
Congrats on the future murder charge?
Posted on 1/9/23 at 5:44 pm to L.A.
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it's kind of like the "fighting words" doctrine regarding the 1st Amendment. The fighting words doctrine allows government to limit speech when it is likely to incite immediate violence or retaliation by the recipients of the words.
What falls under this? Someone saying something "anti-Semitic," a "no-no hurt feels" word, or misgendering someone?
Posted on 1/9/23 at 5:58 pm to KAGTASTIC
quote:It's been years since I read about it and I don't remember specific examples. It's all available in a search if you're interested
What falls under this? Someone saying something "anti-Semitic," a "no-no hurt feels" word, or misgendering someone?
Posted on 1/9/23 at 8:19 pm to jclem11
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Congrats on the future murder charge?
I won't catch one.
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