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re: DOJ admitted 4 of 4 FISAs were illegal. They all knew and signed anyway.

Posted on 10/2/25 at 8:20 am to
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8440 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 8:20 am to
Thanks for the reply

Agree it's complicated
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/2/25 at 8:24 am to
Executive immunity wasn't established until recently, so that quasi-immunity likely exists, but isn't really established yet...like how we assumed the executive immunity did exist prior to the Trump case establishing it.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17497 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 8:33 am to
And hilariously, the garbage media keeps floating that “it’s unprecedented that Donald Trump is using the DOJ to punish his enemies”.

It’s always what they do but blame on republicans. Always.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22772 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 8:33 am to
Judges were in on it.
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
5398 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:19 am to
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This is literal treason, right? Penalty is death, right?

"Treason" typically involves helping a foreign adversary or waging war. I doubt you are going to tie this to another country and courts have set a very high bar for what is considered "waging war". Likely sedition.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
38037 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:41 am to
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This is literal treason, right?

Yes. By definition.
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Penalty is death, right?

Yes, by decree with historical precedent.

But I'm not even going to think about getting my hopes up. Nothing ever happens to these people. I've ceded to the reality that their punishment will come not during this life, but after they depart it.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
16487 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:44 am to
Treason does not have a statute of limitations in the United States, meaning a person can be charged with treason at any time, regardless of when the alleged act occurred.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:45 am to
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Yes. By definition.

Incorrect
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41748 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 3:26 pm to
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I’m assuming the burden of proof threshold is very low in FISA courts to obtain a warrant or wiretap


So low that it’s nonexistent if it’s a liberal trying to attack a normal person
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