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re: DOGE: FedGov has ~3M employees, ~4.6M credit cards/accounts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:35 pm to blue_morrison
Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:35 pm to blue_morrison
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You have to type in a pin and your mileage every swipe.
Same with the cards that come with federal vehicles. It is heavily audited. If you are buying more gas than that car burns in those miles, they know. Easiest way to get fired from a federal job is using the GOV car for literally any purpose except official business. Some try but it nearly always gets you caught. One fender bender on a date or place you shouldn’t be and you are done.
Separate from the debate about the role of govt, how many employees it needs, etc, I just find it laughable that the focus is on federal employees themselves as if they somehow are responsible for a 7 trillion budget and 2 trillion deficit as only 4% of that budget. Anyone who has ever had a federal role - military, civilian, or contractor - knows how stingy and watchful the government is with its employees and their use of funds. The mass levels of fraud, waste, and abuse are with federal funding of the private sector - entitlement spending, enormous defense and transportation contracts, etc. Not saying there are not bad apples or ways to improve but finding the easiest scapegoats while ignoring the elephant in the room won’t actually solve the deficit.
This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 9:39 pm
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:43 pm to teke184
I've had at least 4 or 5 company credit cards and non of them were used to purchase gas etc. Always had a separate card for fuel purchases and it is obvious why.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 10:48 pm to MillerLiteTime
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No FBI agents traveling to find out if a Chinese national is stealing American technology?
When’s the last time they did that?
And no to all of the above
Posted on 2/20/25 at 10:50 pm to MillerLiteTime
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So no soldiers traveling to and from the Pentagon, their home bases etc? No air traffic controllers going to Oklahoma City for training? No inspectors making sure nuclear facilities are safe? No FBI agents traveling to find out if a Chinese national is stealing American technology?
Correct
Posted on 2/21/25 at 1:40 am to Bard
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Even if we say anyone with a card has 3 cards (not including the gas cards removed in an earlier post), that's still 1.3M of the 3M federal employees with cards or nearly half (44%) of all federal employees with cards/accounts. Is every other federal employee involved in purchasing? It seems like the auditing on that would be a bit difficult to keep up with.
This is the point. Many of you are pointing out that you have more than one in you line of work. Now how many employees in your company DO NOT have a card? Id say the ones who have versus those that dont is around one in 30?
Why would the armies of clerks, admiln, support staff need a credit card?
This is by design not by function.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 5:49 am to MillerLiteTime
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I just find it laughable that the focus is on federal employees themselves as if they somehow are responsible for a 7 trillion budget and 2 trillion deficit as only 4% of that budget. Anyone who has ever had a federal role - military, civilian, or contractor - knows how stingy and watchful the government is with its employees and their use of funds.
So it was a senator who took the 20 billion out of the EPA and parked it in a bank? Head of the EPA, she did it by herself, took it out of the treasury and walked it over? Who decided to put it in 7 ngos, some senator by themselves filled out the paperwork and moved them over.
Did a senator move some of the various funds through 50 shell ngos to end up at the end source?
Did a senator approve 100s of thousands for SSI or disability when they knew they shouldnt?
And all these 10s of thousands who did this officially may have been 4% of the budget but they enabled the squandering of trillions.
And just as bad, if they had been focused on their jobs versus stealing, we could have repurposed them and had a million big balls taking AI to the stratosphere. Millions of manhours wasted instead on thiefing.
Not picking on you, just the "argument" that they arent the problem, the swamp may have been drained, but that gator bitin my arse must be dealt with first.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 6:01 am to teke184
So we all have government travel cards and when we go tdy we pay for the gas on our government travel card and are reimbursed when we return home. However each section also has a credit card for that section to order things that we cant get through gsa. As far as the government vehicles they are fueled up on base or at a government site. Each vehicle has a registration device in it so when you pull up to the pump it registers the vehicle using the pump and it is charged to that section. I would assume the extra cards are the section cards which rarely get used and you have to get all kinds of approvals to use them.
This post was edited on 2/21/25 at 6:02 am
Posted on 2/21/25 at 6:11 am to trinidadtiger
In government every one has a card. It is only used if you have to travel. You have to purchase plane tickets, rental cars and gas. You can also use it for food as you get per diem when you travel. Some people travel a lot and some rarely travel but you have to have one and have it active because sometimes travel just pops up. You may not know you are having to go till a few days before. I haven't used mine in like 2 years.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 7:23 am to Bard
Sure, clean this shite up.
But this seems like small ball.
But this seems like small ball.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 10:17 am to Bard
"But where is the PROOF?!" - TDS/EDS libtards 
Posted on 2/21/25 at 10:19 am to Bard
Elon needs to testify to all of these claims under oath as opposed to getting on his social media and making random extreme claims.
People don’t believe everything that see while scrolling social media.
People don’t believe everything that see while scrolling social media.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 10:24 am to teke184
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Are gas (fleet) cards separate from expense account cards?
That and your Controllers/Accounting Managers might have one personal card and 1 card registered to the business Unit but under the Controllers name.
Or they are even dumber than we ever imagined and had credit cards for certain expense types by organization LOL. This would make a mess, much like what we are seeing now.
This post was edited on 2/21/25 at 10:24 am
Posted on 2/21/25 at 10:34 am to teke184
I have a card that I use when I travel for training.
Our division has a certain number of government vehicles, and each vehicle has its on fuel card.
Our division has a certain number of government vehicles, and each vehicle has its on fuel card.
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