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re: Does Trump's ties to Saudi / LIV Golf bother anyone?

Posted on 7/20/22 at 10:43 am to
Posted by 19
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 10:43 am to
Better than that River-Dancing Tranny being pounded by Putler.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 10:44 am to
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You people are also entirely inconsistent in your pearl clutching - you make such a big deal of Hunter Biden while ignoring the Trump's kids and the fact that the Trump organization was doing business WHILE Trump was president.


Again, where is the equivalence? Trump Org is an OLD and established real estate company that continued to run under the Trump childrens' leadership during the presidency under condition of his divestment and BEYOND his legal obligations to do so.

And, to you, this is the same as Hunter railing hookers and smoking crack all over the planet while taking cash from foriegn Oligarchs with direct interest in American policy while his father was VP?

Go back where you came from, Junior. This isnt the place for you.
Posted by TheQuestioner
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 10:46 am to
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What about the Trump kids?


So this big deal you're making about Hunter Biden is that he's a crack addict. This is your big argument against Biden...



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Was I supposed to shake my fist in the air at the big game hunting pictures?


I'm not surprised that you don't keep track of the news or read things but the very fact that the Trump brothers were doing business using the very fact that their father was President.

LINK

I thought you guys were making a big deal about Hunter's foreign dealings which is why I was pointing out the Trump brothers' foreign dealings but if it's been about fricking crack pipes all along, I don't even think it's a serious argument against Biden.

This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 10:47 am
Posted by 19
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 10:47 am to
Shouldn't you be fighting Rascist Rosita from Sesame Street?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 10:49 am to
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In the other thread


You were wrong, I was right. Now kindly...



Posted by The Egg
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Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 10:51 am to
nobody gives a shite about khashoggi, bro
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47571 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 10:51 am to
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Trump brothers' foreign dealings


You mean operating a global, mainstream, and decades old hotel and golf resort chain?

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Hunter's foreign dealings


Abusing drugs and prostitutes while accepting cash from governments and oligarchs who are lobbying his VP father?

These are exactly the same in retarded world (population: you)
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47571 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 10:52 am to
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nobody gives a shite about khashoggi, bro


I really dont even understand why liberals care so much about this, tbh.
Posted by TheQuestioner
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 10:52 am to
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That isnt how it works. You dont get to assume Biden's "public scrutiny" as a political figure (which all political figures endure, BTW) is the equivalent of hostile state and federal level criminal investigations into your political actions, personal affairs, and business dealings spanning many years. They spied on him, embedded operatives in his inner circle, went after his kids, and jailed his associates on old FARA and Mortgage violations and they still couldn't find an actionable charge. There was a special counsel assembled to prove he was a fricking Russian spy who stole the American presidency, man! Get real.


Yes, it is.

By definition of being a US presidential candidate, you're vetted and you have the world's eyeballs on you. If there had been wrong-doing, it would have been found out by investigators from secret agencies, political parties and news reporters.

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which all political figures endure, BTW


There's a difference between 'all political figures' and 'candidate to be the most powerful man in the world.'

The level of scrutiny Biden will have faced will be unparalleled by any non-presidential US political candidate. The world's press, the world's media, the world's secret agencies, every single eyeball in the world would have been going through every single detail and case they could find about Biden.

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And even if you want to lump the current Hunter probe in as an investigation of Joe, which it isnt, do you expect THIS lapdog FBI to bring a case that fricking Merrick Garland will pursue?



I mean you're the only one lumping Hunter and Biden here.

You can't have it both ways - either investigating Hunter is the same as investigating Biden or you can't say that Biden is corrupt because of Hunter's 'dealings'.

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You cant play these games here, friend. This isnt like the other hivemind boards you are used to.


I'm not the one trying to argue that Hunter Biden somehow means Biden is corrupt. You are - it's fricking weird considering the Trump kids were jetting around the world doing business and meeting political figures.

Posted by TheQuestioner
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 10:54 am to
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You were wrong, I was right. Now kindly...


No, you weren't right you moron. Kindly frick off if you're not going to actually make a proper argument. Crime rates for both non-violent and violent crime FELL since the 1990s - you made no argument against that. In any case, it's not worth responding with someone who lies so easily.


This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 10:55 am
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 10:56 am to
You = WRONG.

You are dumb, but you are committed...



This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 10:57 am
Posted by TheQuestioner
Member since Jul 2022
115 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 11:00 am to
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You mean operating a global, mainstream, and decades old hotel and golf resort chain?


No, using Trump's political status to hold events with foreign leaders at private business dealings. The Prime Minister of India doesn't speak at a property 'showing' for no reason.

Just as you guys are alleging that Hunter was lobbying his father, it's just as easily alleged that the Trump brothers were leveraging their father's status as president to sell properties.

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Abusing drugs and prostitutes while accepting cash from governments and oligarchs who are lobbying his VP father?

These are exactly the same in retarded world (population: you)


No, you retard. Leveraging your father's status as president to sell properties (and who knows what kind of agreements those world leaders who showed up at his events got them to agree to) - it's just as easily pointed out that those government leaders meeting with the Trump brothers could have lobbied their President father for favor.


It's pretty much functionally equivalent - only a Trump supporter would try and argue that one is acceptable while the other isn't.

It's clear hypocrisy. Now, I don't give a shite about Hunter Biden or Trump brothers activities - you guys are the ones making a big deal about Hunter Biden so you're the only hypocrites here.

This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 11:03 am
Posted by TheQuestioner
Member since Jul 2022
115 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 11:01 am to
Jesus dude.

Lmao, no wonder you're this committed to the Trump train.

When presented with facts, you ignore them.

When presented with reality, you ignore it.

Instead, you try and claim you're correct when it's clear that you were wrong.

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47571 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 11:03 am to
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Yes, it is.


No. It isnt. being "vetted" doesn't come with federal subpoenas, discovery, grand juries, and the promise of prison... and it certainly doesnt when your AG is a complete lackey.

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There's a difference between 'all political figures' and 'candidate to be the most powerful man in the world


OK. They were both POTUS, so the each got presidential scrutiny and vetting, but Trump got all that and multiple State and Federal investigations, a Special Counsel, and two fricking impeachment trials! Exactly the same, right?! And even if it were, you are still here claiming Trump is a criminal, but Joe isnt. How the frick does that work?

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I mean you're the only one lumping Hunter and Biden here.
Thats really not what I'm doing but I'll bite. My point is the investigative body is not hostile to the subject of the investigation - the subject NOT being Joe Biden because unlike Trump, Joe has never been the subject of a criminal investigation.


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I'm not the one trying to argue that Hunter Biden somehow means Biden is corrupt. You are - it's fricking weird considering the Trump kids were jetting around the world doing business and meeting political figures.


Thats EXACTLY what you are doing. You are trying to equate Trump to Biden and literally calling the Trump kids corrupt. You are guilty of everything you are accusing this board of.


You arent smart enough to hang here, kid. Let REAL liberals like AggieHank do the heavy lifting before you hurt yourself, OK?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47571 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 11:04 am to
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When presented with facts


where?

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When presented with reality


still waiting.
Posted by TheQuestioner
Member since Jul 2022
115 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 11:06 am to
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Well…. Go on. Argue it. Actual investigation please.


LINK

Nothing has happened nor will Biden be found responsible.



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Investigators have at various times inquired about multiple facets of Hunter Biden's life -- initially focusing on tax issues and money transfers related to business activities in China, according to multiple people familiar with the probe. They're also examining Biden's role while on the board of the Ukrainian energy company Burisma years ago, the sources said.


Biden isn't going to be found culpable at all.
Posted by Chazreinhold
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 11:08 am to
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44218 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 11:13 am to
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committed to the Trump train.


Dumb people like yourself are often trapped in a web of stupidity by your own arrogance (and ignorance).

One day you will grow up, leave your moms basement, have sex with any actual person (probably a tranny, but whatever), and join society (as opposed to Antifa).

Until then, you communazi goose-stepping larper...




Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59463 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 11:14 am to
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Nothing has happened nor will Biden be found responsible.

From a legal standard and power to investigate standpoint, having a special prosecutor appointed to investigate trump is so much more significant than anything Biden has faced. The fact you argue otherwise is amazing for anyone with a marginal understanding of the legal implications.

As far as you comparing Biden making deals with foreign leaders based solely upon his influence with his father to trumps kids running a worldwide real estate empire is equally laughable. Are you saying no dignitaries worked with trump prior to him being president? Again, a laughable position.

This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 11:15 am
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47571 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 11:15 am to
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Just as you guys are alleging that Hunter was lobbying his father, it's just as easily alleged that the Trump brothers were leveraging their father's status as president to sell properties.


How were they pulling this off in all those years prior to Trump ever running for president? That's quite a feat!

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Leveraging your father's status as president to sell properties


Except that didnt happen. His net worth dropped by a billion dollars during his presidency and several high profile Trump Org deals were scrapped, maily due to the constant cries of COI coming from his political enemies.


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It's pretty much functionally equivalent


Its not even in the same orbit, homie. Hunter admitted publicly that his father's status and international interest in influencing him, fueled his entire career.
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