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Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:34 pm to Powerman
Then your as soon as possible comment was to look smarter than you are.
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Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:36 pm to CelticDog
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There is an on.going dialog among the left. If you can tell us how you can vouchsafe the by products for millenia then sure. Last we heard from.obamas energy sec There is no disposal that is safe. Fukishima is about to be tossed in.the ocean. The russians tossed barrels of it into the baltic. In washington hanford plant the containers are falling apart.
You are still talking about 1960s technology. Scientists today have figured out a way to build nuclear power plants with companion breeder reactors, which create even more energy from the materials which, in the past, was considered nuclear waste.
Technology evolves.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:38 pm to Jbird
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Then your as soon as possible comment was to look smarter than you are.
No
I'm saying there is an environmental preference for the dirtier fuel to be displaced by the cleaner one. And it's not just an emissions issue.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:39 pm to wookalar1013
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always the a-hole
don't give a shite what you think, you have never posted anything indicating you are worthy of any respect
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:40 pm to Powerman
Arguing with people who have a sentimental view of coal is pointless. Luckily, the market is taking care of this one and coal is going away quickly.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:40 pm to Powerman
Not just emissions? Lol
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:45 pm to HonoraryCoonass
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Technology evolves.
Right - we just have to avoid things like Fukushima, which was an engineering design failure, rather than a failure of the underlying technology.
For example, a new reactor today compared to the 1970s designs is like the difference between modern automobiles and Model T Fords.
They have reactors that can be used by communities or electric coops - about the size of a garden shed, can't be refueled and are completely self-contained. They have the pebble bed reactors you could literally give to a terrorist group and they couldn't do shite with it except generate electricity.
The only real downside to modern nuclear (other than residual concerns about waste) is the initial cost. It's akin to building a brand new house - there is a minimum cost per square foot and then, depending on your needs and wants, no maximum. It's a business decision after that.
This post was edited on 9/19/19 at 7:47 pm
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:45 pm to Jbird
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Not just emissions? Lol
Yes, not just emissions. Some of the largest energy providers in the country have a pretty poor record with their coal plants and their effect on the local environment. Duke Energy for instance spilled over 30K tons of coal ash into the Dan River in North Carolina years ago as as well as millions of gallons of wastewater
That was in 2014 and they still haven't cleaned it all up
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:47 pm to Powerman
So name the power source with zero environmental impact.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:47 pm to billjamin
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Arguing with people who have a sentimental view of coal is pointless.
People aren’t sentimental about coal as much as they are sentimental about a time when the American government rightly kept its nose out of American business.
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the market is taking care of this one and coal is going away quickly.
As it certainly would have even without the meddling from Obama and you eco-libs.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:48 pm to HonoraryCoonass
Bing fricking O.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:48 pm to Jbird
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So name the power source with zero environmental impact.
You sound like a petulant fricking child
Either something is an improvement or it isn't. No one claimed there was a perfect power source you moron
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:51 pm to wookalar1013
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does the right really believe we can go on with fossil fuels forever?
No. Just about 200 years.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:51 pm to CelticDog
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do the reactionaries really believe pollution has no impact?
Sure it has an impact. I'm a conservative and I've seen first hand the pollution in the oceans around Rio. The problem is that all of the democrats and progressives are blaming the US. Our carbon emissions have decreased and surpassed the goals of the Paris Climate Accord.
Why are progressives blaming US where China, Brazil, India, are way more harmful to the climate and the pollution is off the charts relative to the US.. But they are silent to the biggest offenders.. How do you propose we change that? US becoming carbon free doesn't stop this.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:51 pm to Powerman
No you said we need to transition as soon as possible. We not some company but us as a collective. Asked a simple question and you said zero dollars. Then bring up an incident from the past for some unknown reason. I mean your example after all is about the fricking environment.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:52 pm to HonoraryCoonass
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People aren’t sentimental about coal as much as they are sentimental about a time when the American government rightly kept its nose out of American business.
When a private company pollutes on a level that detrimentally impacts the citizens of this country the government damn well better get in their business.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:53 pm to billjamin
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Arguing with people who have a sentimental view of coal is pointless. Luckily, the market is taking care of this one and coal is going away quickly.
Completely agree. Arguing with idiots like Wookar who have zero understanding of the role hydrocarbons plays in the world is pointless. Powering homes and vehicles is a very small percentage that hydrocarbons provide for people.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:53 pm to Powerman
Make up your mind. Now you want the gubment in there bidness!
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:54 pm to HonoraryCoonass
Lol way to go stupid on that one. I’m no eco nut or lib. I spent 12 years in oil and gas doing inland water, deep water, land horizontal pad wells and have recently consulted on 2 large wind projects and currently work in solar.
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