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re: Does the left really believe we can power the entire country on solar and wind?

Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:03 pm to
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:03 pm to
I completely agree. Nuke needs more investment and we need to maintain growth in wind and solar with storage support. Natural gas has become a great replacement for coal.
Posted by Yat27
Austin
Member since Nov 2010
8108 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:07 pm to
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hydro?

i'd keep going but seems an unfair fight

You shouldn't be so smug. We already utilize hydroelectric power where it makes sense to do so... We're pretty much tapped out.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89501 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:07 pm to
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hydro?


The greenies hate hydro, too.

...wait for it - because it doesn't advance the agenda
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39417 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:10 pm to
I don't think they care. They just know that they are going to make billions off of it.
Posted by Yat27
Austin
Member since Nov 2010
8108 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:10 pm to
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You're engaging in the fantasy that the people that think we can go all renewable are a lot more mainstream than they actually are.


You're absolutely right if we're talking about people that have been educated on the topic. However, there are plenty of normal folks who don't know much about this topic who believe it's possible, and not just idiots. Your average person doesn't know about the geographic limitations of these technologies, intermittency, etc.
Posted by wookalar1013
up ta camp
Member since Jun 2017
2006 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:12 pm to
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Anyone who thinks the answer is all of one or the other is just completely wrong. We neeed diversity of generation type and location to support a stabile and flexible energy infrastructure.


Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
73431 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:13 pm to
Nuke aircraft woo hoo! How are 30000 some odd container ship going to be powered?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162211 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:15 pm to
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Nuke aircraft woo hoo! How are 30000 some odd container ship going to be powered?



With fossil fuels

Any other silly questions?
Posted by CheEngineer
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2019
4234 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:16 pm to
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Coal should be phased out as fast as possible and it has already been surpassed by natural gas which is a good step


Why? Why is coal the devil?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73431 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:16 pm to
Oh so we continue polluting the earff!
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:18 pm to
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does the right really believe we can go on with fossil fuels forever?

it's clear you have no interest in honest debate so enjoy your circle jerk



frick you

A couple hundred years is longer than anybody alive needs. Your comment is stupid

I rmember the horse shite from the 70's. We were supposed to have run out 20 years ago.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18062 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:19 pm to
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Our TD friend Ottothewise posted as much many lifetimes ago.


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CelticDog


You’re not fooling anyone.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162211 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:24 pm to
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Why? Why is coal the devil?

I didn't claim coal was the devil

I believe that it's preferable that it be displaced by natural gas

And evidently major energy companies agree with me
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:25 pm to
Preferable or as soon as possible?
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:28 pm to
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hydro? i'd keep going but seems an unfair fight


You have no idea what the frick you are talking about.

You also completely avoided my post describing how Hydro will never be able to replace hydrocarbons to make plastics and polymers like it’s does chemically right now.

You think hydro is going to make the parts for your iPhone?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162211 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:29 pm to
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Preferable or as soon as possible?


If you pay much attention to energy you would know that it's happening at a very aggressive clip already

Coal has been on a huge decline over the last decade and it will continue to decline as it is slowly displaced by natural gas

Which begs the question why the frick anyone cares that much about coal mining jobs in the first place since the demand for their product is going to shite
Posted by wookalar1013
up ta camp
Member since Jun 2017
2006 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:30 pm to
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frick you


always the a-hole
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73431 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:30 pm to
Not what I asked you powerputz.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162211 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:31 pm to
Doesn't seem like a very meaningful question to be honest...
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73431 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:33 pm to
Sure you said as soon as possible. How much tax money do we need to plow into it to fulfill your as soon as possible?
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